How is weights incorporated in Pacquaio's training?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Bokaj, Mar 5, 2011.


  1. MrSmall

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    If are not lifting weights of any sort and you start lifting weights of some sort you will get stronger. there is optimal, and there is suboptimal, but even bodybuilding will get you stronger than you were if you weren't doing anything.

    So much adamant hate on this subject!

    what are your best lifts, virus and Manassa?
     
  2. aramini

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    Virus and I don't always see eye to eye, but I have to say weight training made me really really strong for my weight, and its really easy to push guys around in the ring if they aren't very skilled at evasion or know how to overcome a guy much much stronger.

    I was always fast, and if weight training slowed me down its negligible, sometimes I get "tight" but a few days off gets rid of that feeling. I just stop with the weights two weeks before a fight because once I really pulled my left bicep badly and I attribute it to being too tight from the weights too soon before the fight.

    I gained a little weight, but going from 118 to 128 lbs was a great move, I was actually much much stronger at the higher weight, seemed to take a punch better, and was still used to throwing fast.

    A 130 pound boy is easy to bully with a man's strength, there are very few men at the lower weight classes, and a lot of them interested in fighting are pros and too good anyway.

    Having said that, of course the majority of bulked up guys are muscle bound because they don't do anything explosive, never stretch, don't throw combinations, and have this "eat eat eat" "take muscle bulk gainer" philosophy that is completely worthless for a weight class combat sport.

    Look how athletic these bunch of american football players are: explosive, 300 lbs, strong, fast, and they all train progressively. I don't know what they are taking, but Boxing seems a bit behind the curve in a lot of its training. The thing is intangibles can overcome a lot of physical preparation in boxing. If a guy has a chin like Chavez sr and a punch and good timing, it doesn't matter if he lifts weights or how much he benches, he is going to be a pain to fight even if he is slow as molasses.
     
  3. Manassa

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    Whatever; I'm still interested to hear why you think planches and one armed pull ups won't build power.
     
  4. Manassa

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    Of course you'll get stronger. Nobody is saying you won't; I am definitely not asserting that.

    I've even said that weighed exercise is good for boxing; if done correctly. But I still maintain that for overall agility and balance combined with strength and endurance, bodyweight exercises are the way to go.

    I never visit the gymnasium so I don't know what I can lift... Every now and then I do perform weighted exercise in the form of a person hanging on my back. I can dip 270lbs once.
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No hate, just don't like seeing guys misleading others, posting uneducated bull**** they learned from randomers at the gym as if it's fact.

    Squat - 350
    Dead - 410
    Bench - 270
     
  6. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You weight 140lbs and you can do a dip with an additional 270lbs? For some reason I think you're lying.
     
  7. Manassa

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    Could say the same about you ;)
     
  8. Manassa

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    Additional? Twat :lol:

    Me, plus someone on my back. 270lbs, or 255lbs if you want to be picky and take the weight of my arms out of the equation.
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    8 years training at gyms, 2 years working at gyms as a fitness instructor, qualified fitness instructor and personal trainer.

    Get a clue, mate.
     
  10. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow. Insulting for no reason? Nice.
     
  11. Manassa

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    Actually I think you'll find the science behind physical development is one of the most contradictory of all. Because you've trained for a bit, it doesn't make you the authority.
     
  12. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't deadlift or squat, some lower back damage and my calves blow up so much from exercise I am scared I will gain 20 lbs if I actually work my thighs heavy. I do a lot of lunges and stuff, but never go above 205 on squat for just a few repetitions.

    bench - 255 lbs max, rep 225
    I like to arm curl, it gets no love here or anywhere. 60 lb dumbbells
    calf raises 450 lbs 12 reps in the smith rack
    pull downs are my strongest exercise, I pull down over 250 on the machine, and do weighted pullups 2 sets of 17 reps with a 45 lb weight belt attachment.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnuI0bsMgs[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNVQ0yFnE9o[/ame]

    My best exercise is still jumprope, though. Mostly its upper body strength that sets me apart from a lot of the guys in the low weight classes, when you are stronger its pretty easy to push a light guy around unless they are exceptional on their feet.
     
  13. Manassa

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    Don't be stupid then, and grow a pair of bollocks, it's the ****ing internet.
     
  14. Manassa

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    Any old excuse to post videos of yourself :lol:

    Bit of a poser but you're pretty strong.
     
  15. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Never said it did, I just stated my experience.

    Go read some articles by Joe defranco on training athletes (including boxers) maybe you'll learn something and forget the silly **** you're trying to spread.