Bag Work advice plz!

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  1. 00logan

    00logan New Member Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za1fZXg6To0[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWIQ9llCdP0&feature=BF&list=ULoDeUre2O0q4&index=2[/ame]


    Hello!

    Massive fan of boxing for 10 years or so now... never really been confident enough to just show me face in a gym on me own and start learning to box so i am really lucky that just before christmas we had a gym built in the garden, so i am slowly kitting it out with equipment.

    I have been training now for about 3 months self taught, and tonight decided i would record some videos for me to watch myself back, then decided i would upload to get some proper advice rather than my own thoughts. These are recorded after about 5 or 6 rounds of bag work, so I am proberly EXTRA untidy and open, but I guess other faults will stand out more to experianced boxers.

    Oh and i did end up going to a local gym with a friend a few weeks back and needless to say my stamina was tested and smashed:oops:........guess it takes time.


    So i am lucking for some nice constructive criticism that i can take away and work on.

    Thanks allot in advance:thumbsup

    Logan
     
  2. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First of all you need better music
     
  3. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Focus less on speed and more on correct technique, but then the only way you'll learn the correct technique is to join a boxing gym.

    I started boxing on my own before I joined a gym and my technique was just non-existent, I needed to pretty much redo everything. Also, like you say, my stamina was not up to scratch by their standards, but it takes time.

    Bag work at home is advisable as a supplement to genuine boxing training at a gym, but that depends on where you want to take yourself in the sport.

    I'm not master, but to sum up, learn the correct punching technique, then focus on speed and power.
     
  4. 00logan

    00logan New Member Full Member

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    Cheers for your thoughts mate,

    Yeah i cba digging a hole for myself and learning bad habbits,i shall start going the gym more often, just takes abit of motivation after working all day to drag yourself there,

    err well i think am getting abit to old to do anything remotley serious with boxing am 21 now, but i really enjoy sparring and if the trainer says to me one day he wants me to fight amature's then i wouldnt say no.

    anything specific you can tell me to improve on regarding technique? just so I can aim for something to improve on.

    Thanks again
     
  5. UpAndComin4

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    You can't fight at 21? I would quit now then.
     
  6. 00logan

    00logan New Member Full Member

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    umm not sure how you ment that... but what i ment was that , to start boxing at 21 and aim to make a carreer out of it is wishfull thinking? well thats what i think anyway, i could be wrong but i hear most pro boxers started when they where kids and are brought up with it.

    How did you mean it ? :S Are you telling me i cant fight and should quit ? or are you just refering to me thinking age 21 is too late to start to take boxing serious ?
     
  7. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sergio Martinez, nough said
     
  8. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really don't get why people have this thing where they think starting boxing over the age of 18 means they can't be a decent boxer. WTF?

    If you want to box then box. **** your age, it has nothing to do with anything.
     
  9. 00logan

    00logan New Member Full Member

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    Point taken
     
  10. dcb154

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    Yeah dude, before you start swinging away on the bags and develop bad habits, just work on the basic fundamentals. Shadow box...jab, step. jab, step. then double jab etc.

    As far as working the bag, just standing in front of it thowing punches can limit your productivity for your time. Slide that bag to teh middle of the floor, and circle it and do you work, just like you'd do in a fight. Your opponent wont just stand there, and neither will you.

    Just my thoughts...but it's hard to type out how to throw a punch; hope you can find a gym nearby to get you going.

    Enjoy the sport, and just go as far as your comfortable with and see what happens. Don't limit yourself on age, and don't fool yourself either. Enjoy it and go from there.

    Cheers.
     
  11. UpAndComin4

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    Viru got it.

    For example, lets take all of the 21 year old college football players out there. Do you think that all of them are playing to become pro? I mean lets be honest, every sport will have a professional in about 1% of that population.

    Even boxers starting at age 4, are they going to be pro? The VAST majority is not going to even have a shot. I bet if you started right out of the womb and daddy was making you throw some jabs, you wouldn't become pro. It's just a level most cannot reach even with all the training in the world.

    Box because you love it and you can go very far with something you love if you put your mind to it. Not everything has to be done for a career. I was saying to quit because you gave up without even starting. Don't doubt your ability.
     
  12. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im probably not the best to give technical advice unfortunately, having not fought at any competitive level, just sparring.

    I was quite similar to yourself though, starting late and starting at home, so I know some of the earlier pitfalls to try and avoid.

    It sounds boring but the basics are crucial. Work on the jab first. Make sure it starts at your chin and extends fully to the target. Dont worry about speed too much. Just do it at a normal pace. Make it a ramrod. A good, hard jab is an absolute sickener.

    The same then applies to other punches and combinations. Make sure you extend your punches fully and dont worry particularly about speed. Speed is something you should worry about only after building core punches and combinations.

    But it looks like you have decent stamina, having done 5 or 6 rounds before those videos, and reasonable pop as well. Run often to keep it up.

    Other than that just keep your chin down and hands up at all times. Even when your neck and arms hurt, because it will save you taking unneccesary shots when your just starting out.

    If you enjoy it and want to fight competitively, go for it, if you dont, the gym is still a great place to keep fit, socialise and learn self defense. Dont be bothered about being 21, I started at 17 which is supposedly late and I only got serious and really improved when I went back at about 19. Age is no limit, its about work ethic and willingness to improve and listen to the more experienced.

    Good luck sir!
     
  13. bald_head_slick

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    Great post. :good

    Everything he said, and I would add to not try and do fancy combos on the bag. A stiff jab, a good 1 (jab)-2(straight), 1-2-3(left hook), and high/low hooks in sets of 2 to 4 should see you through at first. 8 punch or quadrupled hooks only work on heavybags. :yep
     
  14. 00logan

    00logan New Member Full Member

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    Cheers Bazza mate just what i was looking for!!!, and bald head slick, great feedback.

    Will get home tonight and start working on my technique,

    would you say the bag or the dummy is the best for perfecting technique ? or would you choose shadow boxing ? or Pads ?
     
  15. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No probs man!

    Never used dummy, but the bag will give you some resistance and let you develop some pop in your punches.

    If you stick around on this forum long term I guarantee others will help you too so keep asking questions because you'll almost certainly get answers here :good