Top Ten Head 2 Head HW list

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  1. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shavers beat him in the raw power department, and Foreman didn't have 1 punch KO power. A slick boxer with a decent chin would be able to take his 1 shot. Which is why I would move him down below Holmes. I would move Tyson and Liston below Holmes too.
     
    Bill1234, Aug 17, 2007
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  2. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    Foreman definitley had 1 punch power and I also believe he hit harder than even Shavers. In fact, I rate Foreman as the hardest puncher ever to grace the heavyweight division.
     
    Sweet Science, Aug 17, 2007
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  3. Irish Steel

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    1.Ali
    2.primeJack Dempsey
    3.Larry Holmes
    4.Wlad Klitschko (if he can unify)
    5. Joe Louis
    5. Mike Tyson
    6.Frazier
    7.Jeffries
    8.Johnson
    9.Liston
    10.Marciano
     
    Irish Steel, Aug 17, 2007
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  4. Irish Steel

    Irish Steel Active Member Full Member

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    I beg to differ. HOlmes said that the hardest he was ever hit by, was from gerrey conney. Whch is impressive because he also faced shavers.
     
    Irish Steel, Aug 17, 2007
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  5. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    How does that suggest Foreman wasn't the hardest hitter ever?
     
    Sweet Science, Aug 18, 2007
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  6. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Jesus, yet another bloke that believes the old "the guy that didn't rock me hit harder than the one that nearly knocked me out" crap. :huh
     
    My dinner with Conteh, Aug 18, 2007
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  7. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Why's Louis #2 then?
     
    My dinner with Conteh, Aug 18, 2007
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  8. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    Well he does have Wlad at number 4 on his Head 2 Head list. :nut
     
    Sweet Science, Aug 18, 2007
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  9. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    Louis had a better chin than Lewis. Joe was also a better finisher and could string together better combinations.
     
    Sweet Science, Aug 18, 2007
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  10. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Unproven IMO.

    IMO the first part is arguable but the 2nd part I fully agree with. Louis was one of the very few Heavyweights who was a better combination puncher than Lewis.
     
    Doppleganger, Aug 18, 2007
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  11. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    I think the majority of people consider Joe Louis to have a better chin than Lennox. I certainly do.

    I also stand by my opinion that Louis was a better finisher than Lennox. Lennox could be too cautious and tentative like he was against a washed up Holyfield. Futhermore, I totally disagree with your opinion that Lewis is one of the very best combination punchers. He was good at it but there were far more than a few Heavyweights who were better at stringing together blows.
     
    Sweet Science, Aug 18, 2007
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  12. goat15

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    1. Holmes
    2. Ali
    3. Louis
    4. Lewis
    5. Liston

    if you merge the sixties and seventies ali (taking his best attributes from both periods to make a super-fighter) he's number 1 by a mile. i'm thinking primes only, though.

    number 5 could be a few of the others who had great primes e.g. dempsey, tyson, foreman. but for me, liston was the closest to actually being unbeatable.
     
    goat15, Mar 8, 2011
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  13. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    sorry but i'm going to have to call you McGraintard today, because this list is dire
     
    Pachilles, Mar 8, 2011
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  14. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Purely H2H. At their peaks, who would do the best against the other greats..

    1) Muhammed Ali
    2) Lennox Lewis
    3) Joe Frazier
    4) Mike Tyson
    5) Larry Holmes
    6) Joe Louis
    7) Evander Holyfield
    8) George Foreman
    9) Riddick Bowe
    10) Rocky Marciano
     
    Pachilles, Mar 8, 2011
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  15. PH|LLA

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    isn't Norton the equal of Ali, head to head?

    head to head should be about comparing 2 fighters, not more.
     
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