How Techniaclly Skilled was Harry Greb?

So I'm the only one that finds it humourous how highly Edgren held Walker when Greb beat him handily? What'd Edgren have to say after that one?

 

No slakka, talking about the $$$$$...You and klompton have insinuated Edgren wrote bad things about Greb, because he wasn't paid off by Greb...Why don't you show me where Edgren was bribed by anyone period if you are so haughty with your opinion. Prove it, why don't you?

 

is something technically if it's wildly effective but not found in any textbook?

 

Heres your proof. Now be quiet

George Raymond Rinehart - 1932 - 646 pages - Snippet view
... of bribery were made by Harry Greb, boxer, decalred that he was forced to grease the palms of reporters to get publicity. Many publishers replied, Wilbur Wood, president of the year-old New York Boxing Writers Associa- 2 tion, ...
books.google.com

 

Not even close, ducky...Yes I have no doubt that things like that occured. But if I have to spell it out for you,.... here it is... was EDGREN involved? That is the question. You insinuated Edgren was on the take...prove it. If you are going to try to sully a good reputation, let's hear the case for it.

 

Was Edgren a member of the ny boxing writers association?
Yes
Did Greb blow the whistle on them.
Yes
Did Edgren de emphasize Greb in an article praising his victim Mickey Walker
yes

How do you explain it??

 

It appears you are stating it as guilt through association against a man who was known for his integrity and I say that is a reckless and irresponsible path. That is how I'm seeing it right now.Would/Should you be held accountable for the wrong doing of a colleague in your chosen field? Shakey ground, real shakey...

 

why are u so praising a writer de emphasizing greb in a feature article on mickey walker who greb whipped as a 31 yr old semi sighted man
Its a good way to broadcast to the world im a hack

 

Who is stating what via guilt through association? You accused me of saying Edgren had an axe to grind for Greb blowing the whistle on him taking bribes which I didnt. I never stated such a thing. Whether thats a fact or not is neither here nor there. The fact is that Edgren, who you claim was fair unbiased, was decidedly critical of Greb when others were praising him and was consistently tearing down his ability when the vast majority of onlookers were talking about his diversity of skills and his greatness.

 

Was Greb not highly esteemed in his time? In fact, Greb was a lot more highly esteemed in his chosen field than Edgren ever was in his, yet somehow you accept Edgrens ridiculous assaults on Greb as being unbiased and fair (even when they go against the majority of writers at the time) and say those that defend Greb against those attacks are sullying his reputation?

Why dont I do the opposite and post the wealth of information published over Greb's life and the last 85 years since his death about just how faulty Edgren's observances of the man were.

I think Edgren did enough to sully his own reputation by his numerous and blatant attacks on Greb that were often at odds with his peers. As Slakka and others have stated: How do you consider yourself unbiased when you attack Greb's performance against Walker and praise Walker when most observers at the time called it a terrible beating that Walker suffered and for over a year after many felt Walker had not recovered from it. Most of those writers present wrote for the next twenty or more years how that was Greb's finest performance and yet somehow Edgren found room to criticise and build Walker's stature up beyond reason in light of his own failings in the fight. I get the impression that you are one of those people who thinks FOX News is fair and balanced... might want to check the dictionary on what those terms actually mean and how to apply them.

 

I'm not praising anyone. Greb kicked his butt. I'm asking for proof of the insinuation you've made about Edgren specifically being on the take. You are the one who put it out there...Watsamata? Trying to blackball somebody getting a little tough?

 

Why do you keep saying Im insinuating Edgren was on the take. I have never said that. What I said was that he was unfair in his treatment toward Greb and biased against him. That doesnt mean he was on the take. Hell he could have disliked Greb because he wasnt a New Yorker, or because he tied his shoes wrong. It doesnt matter, Edgren is not the person you would look to for a fair and unbiased account of Greb's ability when trying to assess it.

 

Ive made my postings i stand behind them. Prove his non involvement

 

I think that Edgren was entitled to his opinion. Without the stipulation that something nefarious was behind it. Unless something is substanciated with far more than an opinion. Just in case you didn't realize this Edgren was the most lauded sportswriter of his generation. If he didn't think the world of Greb? So what?
Do I personally agree with said opinion? NO! Greb should always have received his props for his fight with Walker and his career.
But with that being said....
Marciano was criticized. Holmes was crticized. Ali was criticized. etc. etc. Were all of those reporters on the take?

 

Then your postings and accusations are based only on opinion and nothing else. I don't have to prove anything, I'm not the one making accusations here.