Key To Beating Wlad For Haye

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  1. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    His right hand. Like the sander's left, haye has to explode on wlad like sanders did, or haye is doomed. It will be another klitschko jabfest. Forget about outboxing Wlad, that will never happen. He'll control u with his jab and then land right hands when he offsets u with his jab. Haye has to tyson his ass, or it is over. :lol:
     
  2. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    I think David Haye can jab and technically box with Klitschko successfully.
     
  3. Boxing Fanatic

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    forget about fighting him like he did in the Valuev fight. That shite wont work. wlad will coast to a decision in germany. wlad is prone to a serious attack, he flings his arms out and panics when charged at.
     
  4. TerryESB

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    Haye had trouble with Valuevs size, he had trouble getting close inside of Valuevs reach. Wlad is smaller.
     
  5. Boxing Fanatic

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    if haye does that, wlad is gonna control david with his jab like he always does to his other opponents
     
  6. Farmboxer

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    See a lot of wishful thinking here. Whistling in the dark?
     
  7. Boxing Fanatic

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    i didnt say he will win, read the thread again :roll:
     
  8. joeyboy

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    I think Haye will go to the body to try and create an opening upstairs, I dont think he can win a decision and he needs to be very careful he doesnt get sparked out himself. he needs a knockout !

    I hope he can do it but I dont see it
     
  9. DrMo

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    The key for me is Haye feet, if he can move in/out of range & get some lateral movement creating angles then he can win.

    He doesnt block the jab very often, if/when he slips it he needs to be set & ready to throw the right hand.
     
  10. speck

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    Haye won't take out Wlad with one punch, he needs to throw successive shots. The only problem with that is that his swinging style makes him awfully unbalanced on his feet and wide open to counter-punches. It will take Wlad only one hook to finish incoming Haye. This is something that Haye himself is fully aware of, therefore you shouldn't expect ANY serious offensive actions on his part for the entire duration of the fight barring the final round when he'll be down on points and try to go for a last ditch KO. It's not going to happen either as his stamina won't be there on that stage and Wlad will be extra cautious. Speaking of Wlad, I believe he will pull Ibragimov in this bout as the gravity of coming close to fulfilling the Kilitschkos life-long dream of unifying all the belts withing the family will weigh heavily on his psyche.

    Conclusion: I'm expecting a boring fight with Wlad winning comfortably via a UD.
     
  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I also think "bumrushing" is the key for Haye to possibly beat Wlad.

    There's also a big but (nu pun intended). To succesfully execute a bumrush there's a couple of things you need.

    1) A big punch
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    2) A good chin
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    3) Guts
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    4) Luck
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    If you don't have point 1, you better forget it.
    If you don't have point 2, your opponent better not have a big punch himself and you need a lot of point 4.
    If you don't have point 3, you don't do it anyway or hamper yourself along the way.
    If you don't have point 4, your opponent better be a bum or John Ruiz.
     
  12. Tully

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    If Wlad didnt hit so hard that would be true, the problem is that the legendary jab of Wlad has dynamite in it.

    Wlad has way too much to keep Haye away from him and David isnt exactly a genius on the back foot. He will spend half the fight looking for a big counter right.

    And even IF Haye lands that right Wlad aint going anywhere, Wlad will not be knocked out by a single shot from Haye. David needs to land hard and often.
     
  13. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I feel that Haye has exceptional talent but never developed it through enough fights. He can go from world class to sloppy in the same round. Current Wlad is focused and on top of his game 12 full rounds, if it takes that long. Besides, he has much more confidence. Peter actually moved better in the rematch than in the first fight against Wlad, only this time when he landed a good hook, it didn't put Wlad in panic mode at all.

    Haye is only fast when he explodes, he doesn't fight with great speed generally. just watch the Fragomeni fight and tell me where the great speed is supposed to be? Wlad has underrated speed, simply because a tall guy will always look slower than he actually is. The speed advantage for Haye won't be that big. He needs serious luck or a huge upgrade from everything he showed so far to beat Wlad.
     
  14. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    My strategy guide for both boxers.
     
  15. speck

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    Good analysis:good

    Key point here. To achieve that Haye would need a granite chin to push past Wlad's counter-punches. Haye's fans for some reason misplace Wlad for Harrison when visualising Haye's onslaught. Wishful thinking.