Pac knocks out sweet pea or Looks stupid trying?

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  1. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Goro is just a another ***** posing... WTF with these corny alts and even worse people taking them serious..
     
  2. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :lol: Nice one. First it was the blood in the Morales loss, now Pacman was drained in the JMM rematch? ***** please. :lol: Pacman is 5'6'' in his prime while Oscar was a JMW who hadn't fought at ww for yrs and at the end of his career. Pacman was never drained.
     
  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    O Lord:patsch
    Don't you think Chavez would just walk right through Pernell feather fists and tear up his body. He's go good movement, but Chavez will walk through his punches and tear his body up. :-(
    See how that turned out

    And if you think that's dumb, what makes u think Pacquiao can do it.
     
  4. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a different kind of fight than Floyd would want to fight.. Even at a slowed pace it was back and forth action instead of single leads and an eventual one two.. Those guys traded the entire fight, and in order for Marquez to land he had to take some shots in order to do so..

    We got a glimpse of this against Hatton, Pac will show the full extent of Floyd being made uncomfortable by a true swarmer that has all the tools of his trade..

    But this is about Pea who does't even have the power of Mayweather, although his awkwardness and ability to not get hit is second to none.. he also throws sick combos when he's willing to exchange..
    Pea beat Chavez handily but 147 Pac is better than a 145lb Chavez.. He's faster, stronger, and moves better at the weight..
     
  5. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This would be a great fight. Whitaker wouldn't make Pac look foolish. Whitaker would get caught, and this is southpaw vs. southpaw ; different kind of fight.
     
  6. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Yeah, Pac ducked Marquez and the 130 weight division to cherrypick Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito in 4 higher weight divisions.

    Classic duck! :rofl
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Not every time. It's just the quick HBO highlight below, but you can see Marquez having success with some single shot counters or leading with a 2 punch combo.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVStmLCoH30[/ame]

    He ended up getting knocked down when he was too combo happy and tried to trade.

    His best highlight of the fight was when he measured and timed emmanuel to do that left hook, right hand, left hook combo. Juan didn't have to trade at all to land that.
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhDXxY32TCw&feature=related[/ame]
    :deal Watch Solis make Manny miss over and over again in the 7th
     
  9. evilsherwin

    evilsherwin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    depends, would sweet pea accept 7 days?
     
  10. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    People tend to think of Whitaker as being this all-defense, no-offense fighter but his offense is very underrated. Great jab, terrific body-puncher, good workrate, nice combinations. His left hand could do some real damage when he got leverage on it. He unified the LW title with a single left hand, hurt Chavez in the 8th round with his left hand, it saved him against Hurtado, etc...

    Whitaker had great footwork and could box on the retreat, stay in the pocket, or even come forward. He'd come forward behind his jab, or use this tactic where he dipped low and used his shoulder to drive his opponent back, getting leverage behind him, and digging in with his free left hand. His strength was overlooked as well.

    Pacquiao is a marvelous offensive fighter. Explosive with his speed and power, with a higher ring IQ than given credit for. You don't fight as well as he does, achieve as much as he has, without having some ring intelligence. Great timing, knowing when to throw shots, little tactics as shown in that youtube video for the Cotto fight on how he timed the jab and got in his own left hand. Pacquiao would likely land some good shots, maybe stun Pea early on score a flash KD (a la McGirt in the rematch). But I don't think he'll land enough to win.

    Whitaker, 8-4 type fight.
     
  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Why is it people think because Pea was a defensive fighter he had no power? Power isn't what wins fights it's how you apply your skills. Whitaker fought with fighters in their primes much bigger and stronger than him that could outgun him like Julio Cesar Vasquez, an experienced champ with dynamite in both hands and the same one that dropped Winky 5 times. If he can handle a bigger man's power like he did with Oscar and Vasquez, he can handle Pacman's. What I do see in Pacman's favor is his speed and volume punching. Punches in bunches is a defensive fighters worst nightmare because even though they are trained to avoid punches and counter them, a dozen punches coming from different angles is a defensive fighters worst nightmare. Too many punches to defend, even if they are not powerpunches. Stylewise I favor Pacman, but Whitaker could be sneaky at times and sneak in straight lefts and even a flash knockdown on Manny. Pea wasn't concerned in breaking you physically, he did it to you mentally. Pea was the exception.
     
  12. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A fighter with Sweet Pea's defense would be a hell of a puzzle for Pac to solve, IMO. Pac is very fast with his hands and feet. But, he would take fewer chances if he is being made to miss and pay.

    I think Sweet Pea wins a comfortable UD.
     
  13. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes Leon.. But you are talking about bits and pieces of a whole fight.. Marquez had to stick to his gameplan the entire night in order to have those moments of success.. Marquez is like a mini Terminator, no matter what you hit him with he keeps coming..Pac is hittable especially when he chooses not to utilize his footspeed..
     
  14. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Chavez too slow, too one dimensional, too predictable for Pea. Even more so at that weight and that stage of his career. Chavez gassed mostly from chasing Pea all night along with some low blows. Had Chavez had better stamina, his aggression and iron chin would have carried him to a legitimate draw or even a split decision with Pea.

    Pac's speed, angles, footwork, athleticism to match Pea, stamina, volume, granite chin, even height and reach advantage, IMO would be way too much for Pea to handle.

    In other words, Pac has all the necessary tools to beat Whitaker and more. Chavez was on even terms with Pea until he gassed.
     
  15. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you say so. Try to stay on topic though.