Klitschko-Haye: An absurd mismatch and hype job

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jacklondon, Mar 9, 2011.


  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, I don't believe so.

    You rather miscalculculated when you stated that Wlad took longer to defeat Rahman than Lewis took.

    That, and ONLY that, was the portion of your post to which I responded, clearly demonstrating the error of your trollification.


    The remainder of your backtracking and puffery is rather beside the point.



    No, we shan't, old fellow. They are beside the point you made and I corrected.

    And all quite unnecessary, as I'm aware of Lennox's accomplishments in the Ring.

    I'm a fan and I rank the man # 3 alltime in my list of HW greats.

    And I'm equally aware that Wklad suffers somewhat from comparisons to such a figure.


    Still, in this instance, Lennox got careless and needed another 'kick at the cat' as they say.

    Hence, the error in your otherwise most admirable piece of trollification.

    An error which I gently corrected.


    Till next time....

    :hat
     
  2. foomanshoo31

    foomanshoo31 Musician... And Lovin' IT Full Member

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    This could very well turn out to be a boring one sided beat down. I give Haye about 25% I think that's a fair shot. I base that on what both have done at heavyweight.. Haye is cashing out and he knows it. Haye's defense is awful. And this talk of movement makes me laugh. Haye's footwork is terrible, I really don't think he will be able to avoid Wlad's jabs. Haye has not proven one punch KO power, Wlad has. Haye isn't going to KO Wlad with one punch, and he looks like he's fighting with his sister when he goes in for the kill. Not a good finisher. I do think this will be a mismatch in many ways. The only chance Haye has is a puncher's chance. Anything can happen though, I have to say I'm interested in seeing it. Though I really think Haye's going to get beat up really bad and he knows it. He's cashing out. But hey (No pun intended) he'll be set for life, but he'll remember that beating for the rest of his life!:tired
     
  3. gobblock

    gobblock Boxing Addict banned

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    Steward disagrees.
     
  4. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    :patschIs it not about time ridiculous people like this were banned?
     
  5. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    He's wrong

    Prime Lewis would expose the difference in levels between them, its night and day, i mean... its not even close.

    Haye couldnt lace Lewis' boots but he will destroy Wlad.
     
  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Funny how Haye lovers want to change boxing history. Tell Lewis to get into a ring and we will find out. I can't wait 'till Vlad gets Haye into a ring, or Vitali.
     
  7. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    No he doesn't. He just says so because that's his fighter right now.

    I've been razzed for saying this before, but I believe and I'm sticking to it.

    If not for his tendency to lose focus on occasion, Lewis would be right in the discussion of GOAT HW. I'll never say definitively he was the GOAT, but his skill set of footwork, hand speed, angles and power was up there with the best of them.
    But I must concede that since his losses came to nobodies, he gets that huge demerit. But when he took on the best his day had to offer, he was rarely even tested. Mercer and Vitaly were his biggest troubles, and Vitaly was another case of Lewis showing up unprepared.

    He never lost Holyfield, or even came close. And Evander is a clear cut ATG.
    And he couldn't help the fact the Bowe was too scared to fight him.
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Haye lovers are using wishful thinking and are whistling within the dark.
     
  9. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Haye landed 68% of his punches - 98/143 with a broken right hand.

    Valuev landed 16% of his - 64/390

    That's called boxing, the sweet science, hit and not get hit, swim without getting wet, wank without getting a boner. You get an injury you adjust your game plan - it wasn't pretty but it worked.

    Yes - his output was low versus SNV because of his hand, but if you scored he fight to Valuev you might as well find a new sport to follow, because this one aint for you.

    You exposed your embarrassingly low understanding of the sport when you said that a fighter who doesn't stand and trade with a 6'7 accurate power puncher is a *****.

    You're just annoyed because you've been caught out on your bull****. "Haye is a ***** and will never fight Wlad!" (two weeks later) "Ok, so they're fighting, but . . . erm . . . erm . . . I bet Haye is a ***** and doesn't just stand there and let Wlad just punch him in the face". Of course he's not going to stay in the pocket against Wlad - that would be stupid.

    - You don't just stand in front of Wlad and let him jab you
    - If you stand too close to Wlad he WILL grab and lean on you to wear you down
    - Wlad does not throw his right hand at a moving target, he has to be certain it'll land.

    Everything points towards using footwork to keep Wlad from setting himself, measuring range and throwing his 1-2. He'll be waiting for Wlad to over commit on something and then try to get inside, punish him and get back out before he's tied up. If you're going to call that being a ***** then I think you should stick to watching Rocky movies.

    Haye has a slim enough chance as it is. That diminishes to zero chance if he tries to stand in the pocket and trade with Wlad. It's a basic principle of any sport that you play to your own strengths and try to stop your opposition from doing the same. You appear to be more of the mindset that anything other than making things as easy as possible for your opponent is being a *****. Good luck with that
     
  10. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seeing as how we can't come close to a consensus on how this fight will actually go down, that seems proof enough its a good match. And at heavyweight, between 2 champions. Cracking stuff.

    Wlad KO8. Haye is bad for boxing. If he does win, though, I hope its in entertaining fashion.
     
  11. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im a big Haye fan but the OP has a point. Wlad is the best heavyweight of this era and haye is his biggest competition but that doesnt exactly mean Haye will win this or even put up a good fight. Wlad should win this easy.
    Wlad KO
     
  12. joe33

    joe33 Guest

    Great thread, mark my words haye will for all the hype be an easy win for wlad, they know he can bang, but wlad aint the same now as he was when he got KOed a few times, he is in for a super easy night, in a fight that will not live up to the dizzy heights most are expecting
     
  13. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks for the essay, but you missed the point all along. Re-read my original post :good
     
  14. psychopath

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    WTF Zak . . . you are calling Haye a glass jawed fighter?

    Take note that Haye has been kayoed only once while Wlad has 3 loses all by KO. :deal

    :lol:
     
  15. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    - You missed the entire point as usual.
    - No YOU missed the entire point as usual.
    - No You missed the entire point.
    - No it's you.
    - No You missed the entire point as usual ******.
    - No YOU missed the entire point ******.