Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Another reliable newspaper source,for you Old Pal.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=WH19090531.2.37&l=mi&e=-------10--1----2--

 

Choynski had testimonials from Jeffries,Corbett,Fitzsimmons, and Johnson , naming him as the hardest hitter they faced.
When Johnson met Choynski he was only a super middle himself [notice the correct spelling.]


Johnson fought Choynski in 1901 he was a far cry from the man who toyed with Burns in 1908, but if it gives you comfort to believe he was the finished article, so be it.
Choynski also kod Frank Childs, George Godfrey,Peter Maher, Steve O Donnell ,and Joe McAuliffe.
Joe Louis was out boxed for 13 rds by 168lbs Billy Conn, you have no reason to say Johnson was outboxed by O Brien that is just your view of it ,many observers thought Johnson won clearly.Papers were divided as to the winner.
Hope McVey comes back , then he can take on the burden of correcting you.
ps when was the last time you won a debate on here?

 

O Brien met an ill trained Johnson over 6 rds to a no dec. O Brien could not ko Johnson if Johnson stood there and gave him free shots. Jack knew this and took the opportunity to come in out of shape opinions as to the winner are divided, but you keep on telling your porkies about it.


Burns was not ill, he was giving public workouts daily , sparring with Al Kaufmann ,and battering him.
There is no evidence at all that Burns suffered from jaundice.
I await your next string of porkies. Old Pal.

 

this thread is like two old ladies standing at the bus stop with one of them continuously coming out with unprovable facts about how ill she is and is much sicker than anyone else she is

 

But you don't realise ,I have a jaundice.:nono

 

Nice to see The White Chapel Windmill as your avatar , he was some fighter.:good

 

yeah the only problem is apart from a couple of bits of film one of which is the 2nd canzoneri fight there seems to be no real film of him . i am though quite happy to believe that he was our best light and lightwelter fighter

 

Just prior to the fight with Jeffries,
Johnson, slipped on the steps outside Rickards office , ,badly injuring his back , and postponing his training for 2 weeks, there is" some evidence " he fought with a broken spine.:yep

" I was positive he would fold up under punishment."

"How badly had I underestimated his boxing skill,his tremendous strength,and unquestionable cunningness."

" He backed slowly about the ring,employing a slow shuffling technique,coupled with superb arm blocking ,and head rolling"

Tommy Burns, [ conqueror of both O Brien, and Hart ,] referring to Johnson, after their fight.

P S. At anywhere between 218lbs ,and 240 lbs was Jeffries the first of the supper heavyweights?
And ,would that make Johnson ,and Burns ,lunchtime, and breakfast time heavyweights do you think ?
See you later,Old Pal :hi:

 

Yes ,you can see old Jack, really struggling here.

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He was real frightened ,frightened he had killed him.
N B.Ketchel was out for 9 minutes. It must have been supper time . :rofl
Speak soon, Old Pal :hi:

 

It's well known Johnson's chin was pure glass ,that's why he was never kod in his prime.
That's why he went from 1901 until 1915 ,14 years without being kod ,and ,only dropped once ,in, what might have been a fake knockdown.
That's why he went a further 11 years, before being stopped again.

N. B .
Johnson was stopped ,in 1899 , by Klondike ,from a series of body punches ,Johnson was described as," half starved".


Johnson was stopped in 1901 by Choynski ,from a left hook to the temple, the authorities entered the ring before the count reached 10.

Johnson was stopped by Willard in 1915, after 26rds, 1hour and 16 1/2 minutes ,he was 37 years old.

1926 by Bob Lawson when he retired between the 7th and 8th rds,he was 48 years old.

Yes his chin was pure glass, you nailed it, Old Pal.:good