David Haye's routine

Good on you my young friend

 

Cheers, one of the ones my age taking it new school and seeing the benefits. 50 sit-ups before bed just wont do haha!

 

Enjoyed reading this, both sides make good points. Keep it as simple as i can, how we evolve is through senses,all have one thing as regarding a common bond, its Feel. Taste, sound, sight, smell taste, touch, all in a way are Feel. Now the qiuckest response unit is Feel Touch. That to me is where confusion comes in as regards using Metal, wrong Feel as regards Boxing. Ressitance techniques ill use all day long, doing it Same Feel isnt constant. Theres adaptability.

 

You're talking to the wrong ****ing cowboy :twisted:

No. There's a limit, above that limit you will break down. Overtraining :deal

I understand where our misunderstanding comes from. Ofcourse you need to "overtrain" constantly to get gains in the first place. I'm talking about overtraining for someone who has already fully walked that path and is doing his maximum workload. I've reached my limit a few times, usually after a fight. I felt so strong that I thought I didn't need recovery, not even a rest day after a fight. Two or three physical activities a day, no rest, and a week later I'm in bed with flu.

Of course my limit is not that of a professional athlete, they can handle more, but I sure as **** could not have added weights without sacrifice.

 

There is a limit but most people are nowhere near it.

Just because you got ill doesn't mean you are overtrained, you might be undertrained with that workload and that is body struggling to cope with it, who knows if after a month of putting yourself through that if you would feel better for it? You'll never know And probably never need to.
and there are always things you can change, nothing is absolute.
Then again, maybe that WAS your limit.
You said its after a fight, most likely its mental exhaustion that fatigued your immune system and made you ill, as well as the physical factors, but strange how they didn't make you ill before a fight eh! Not a coincidence, maybe.

 

Agreed.

Training through a month of flu? That might work :think

Hundred percent is hundred percent, try changing that.

Come on man give it up, mental exhaustion that destroyed my immune system. You trolling me?

Like I said I felt stronger than ever, especially mentally. After a fight I'm so hyped up and focused it's scary. At that point comes overtraining, always. It didn't make me ill before the fight because I was more concerned with peaking at fight day. Not a coincidence at all indeed. It's the "superman" feeling from fighting (or in case of a loss the "I need to work on **** no time for rest" feeling) that made me want to overtrain in the first place, I took it to a next level that simply wasn't there.

 

well I don't see how your last paragraph disagrees with what I'm saying, I don't care who you are or how tough you are, getting ready for a big competition and performing takes it out of you (not YOU in particular), and sometimes you realise this sometimes you don't, it affects some more than others. I may have misunderstood what you meant by after a fight.
As I said, a lot of "maybes" in my post because I know little to nothing about your methods! Its rare that more is better anyway, that's wasn't what I meant.
It doesn't matter really you are happy with what you are doing and that's all that matters.

 

I give up atsch

 

I didn't think we were arguing about anything in particular?

 

You are arguing for the sake of it

 

NO I'M NOT!

set me up for that one eh?

we just disagree to a degree, no big deal in that!

 

This is actually a thing. Your body works so hard to keep itself running at 100% that eventually it just gives out. You immune system crashes. It's the reason a lot of students get sick around exam time. Add that to physical training (which already depletes the immune system) and the mental aspect of a fight and you're bound to get some kind of physical effects.

 

That's what I was saying, forgot about the students/exam situation as a supporting argument.

 

So what excalty is overtraining RDJ...?

You could'nt of overtrainned on a consistant basis.

 

Good lord. You people are right. Weight training is a magic form of training that despite needing recovery can be added without sacrifice to any routine. Overtraining does not exist, it's merely mental. Despite having an effect on your boxing abilities (strength wise), it will not conflict with its training.

atsch