Sergio Martinez is the P4P #1

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  1. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes small frame, small head. He was undersized despite his height. A good comparison :Donaire - Sidorenko. Overpowered! Many wouldn't have been able get up so many times from those punches.

    I was impressed by Dzin's skill but his non-existent power and that he was trailing made him more aggressive than he should have been and more open to a counter.

    Anyway, props to Martinez for a great win!
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Recent fight syndrome. :patsch Gamboa will be in the top 5 p4p 2 weeks from now
     
  3. NSX-R

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    P4P status is not determined by the three most recent fights alone. If you discredit Pacquiao's win over Cotto because the latter was 'shot', you better erase Martinez's win over Pavlik.

    BTW I have Martinez at #3. Right behind you-know-who, and you-know-who.
     
  4. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It has to do with recent level of opposition.

    Pacs last few fights have been Margarito and Clottey.
    In that timeframe Martinez fought Williams Pavlik Williams and Dzinziruk.
    Williams was rated #3 p4p and yea all you fan boys were talking about how good he was until he gets KOd then you all knew it all along.

    PBF well he has been inactive for almost a year so he can drop out of the list.

    Going by your reasoning then Roy Jones should have just faced C level fighters to keep his p4p number 1 status or Hopkins too.

    p4p is not about what you have done in your past. Its about what you are doing now.
     
  5. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    Pavlik was a drunken staph-infected fighter when martinez got to him. could have been his best win but no. Williams II is still his biggest win to date. I'd rank Donaire higher for his sheer dominance of his successive opponents
     
  6. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    According to that other guys logic PW should be fighting Vitali. :lol:

    The replays on the KD's were brutal, the fact that he got up from all of those is remarkable.
     
  7. CasualFan

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    Too bad for Martinez.. his division is weak.. it's either move down to cherry pick smaller guys or move up and fight his own size but less money and legacy...
     
  8. unloco

    unloco Boxing Addict banned

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    :lol: sorry guys i meant in my opinion ,








    sm p4p #1

    i will accept #2 though
     
  9. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    :patsch
     
  10. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    :)
     
  11. NSX-R

    NSX-R Active Member Full Member

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    Please find me a definition of P4P that states that a fighter's earlier fights are totally irrelevant. Your P4P list would literally change several times a year if it was based solely on a boxer's most recent fight.
     
  12. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he gets my vote also easily #1 fighting top fighters in their prime and in their weight not coming of losses or anything like that... pac is below him

    :hat
     
  13. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Depends how high was this guy Dzinruk p4p?
     
  14. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I wouldn't argue with making him higher than Mayweather, and Pacquiao has been too consistently dominant to dethrone I think....but there's an argument there too; quality of opponents.


    However, in the past 16 months, for that stretch of time Martinez has outdone them without question.



    It's a matter of individual P4P "legacy" vs "what have you done for me lately?"
     
  15. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    so reactionary. please, he just beat dzinziruk handily. A good LMW, but not even a MW itself and you're jumping to give him that credit?

    Looked great, but ****ing hold your horses. As far as I'm concerned he's #3... And Donaire is closing in on him.