Yes small frame, small head. He was undersized despite his height. A good comparison onaire - Sidorenko. Overpowered! Many wouldn't have been able get up so many times from those punches. I was impressed by Dzin's skill but his non-existent power and that he was trailing made him more aggressive than he should have been and more open to a counter. Anyway, props to Martinez for a great win!
P4P status is not determined by the three most recent fights alone. If you discredit Pacquiao's win over Cotto because the latter was 'shot', you better erase Martinez's win over Pavlik. BTW I have Martinez at #3. Right behind you-know-who, and you-know-who.
It has to do with recent level of opposition. Pacs last few fights have been Margarito and Clottey. In that timeframe Martinez fought Williams Pavlik Williams and Dzinziruk. Williams was rated #3 p4p and yea all you fan boys were talking about how good he was until he gets KOd then you all knew it all along. PBF well he has been inactive for almost a year so he can drop out of the list. Going by your reasoning then Roy Jones should have just faced C level fighters to keep his p4p number 1 status or Hopkins too. p4p is not about what you have done in your past. Its about what you are doing now.
Pavlik was a drunken staph-infected fighter when martinez got to him. could have been his best win but no. Williams II is still his biggest win to date. I'd rank Donaire higher for his sheer dominance of his successive opponents
According to that other guys logic PW should be fighting Vitali. The replays on the KD's were brutal, the fact that he got up from all of those is remarkable.
Too bad for Martinez.. his division is weak.. it's either move down to cherry pick smaller guys or move up and fight his own size but less money and legacy...
Please find me a definition of P4P that states that a fighter's earlier fights are totally irrelevant. Your P4P list would literally change several times a year if it was based solely on a boxer's most recent fight.
he gets my vote also easily #1 fighting top fighters in their prime and in their weight not coming of losses or anything like that... pac is below him :hat
I wouldn't argue with making him higher than Mayweather, and Pacquiao has been too consistently dominant to dethrone I think....but there's an argument there too; quality of opponents. However, in the past 16 months, for that stretch of time Martinez has outdone them without question. It's a matter of individual P4P "legacy" vs "what have you done for me lately?"
so reactionary. please, he just beat dzinziruk handily. A good LMW, but not even a MW itself and you're jumping to give him that credit? Looked great, but ****ing hold your horses. As far as I'm concerned he's #3... And Donaire is closing in on him.