Heavyweight Tournament with a Twist: THE FINAL (Jeffries/Tyson)

Yes lets all pick the guy who had limited skills by his own era's poor standards, never fought a 200+lb man, had limited power and also never fought bare fist

 

Have you read accounts of some of the LPR battles ,particularly the more protracted ones ? Vitali quit in a fight , with a damaged arm,in a fight he was winning.
Some of the old Bruisers fought unitl they were virtually blinded.
Whoever succeeded at their gory game, needed very big balls. Both Klits DSQ'd

 

Tyson lacked the heart and focus. London Rules would demand even more of this, as the fights last much longer. Jeffries wins here.

 

Vitali quit because he is a sports doctor, and feared he could further damage his shoulder. Remember, back then Vitali was very young, and had not made a lot of money or become famous. He was also unaware of how the western press would react.

Yer boy Jackson Jonson quit TWICE in fights, was Ko'd by one punch, fouled out in another. Just thought you should know

PS: Hi McVey.

 

I think Tex Cobb would have been quite good under the LPR.

 

seriously?

i'm not surprised that you an kalashin voted for Tyson, after all he's your superhero.

 

Tyson was supposed to be phenomenal in his roadwork in the early days and to do what he did took an awful lot of stamina, however he would need to adjust his style to the longer duration

It really is more bizarre that Jeffries has made the final. He never beat a 200lb+ man, he came close to losing to a Corbett who hadn't won in 6years and he quit rather than get knocked out for 10, so all the talk of him being tougher, mentally stronger and never quiting is pretty redundant because he did.

 

I'm not sure how this changes the fact that Jeffries was an unskilled oaf who fought 1 elite fighter and got his ass handed to him

 

People with asthma and other conditions can actually be very physically fit and yes his style is that of a frontrunner, its the boxing equivilent of sprinting, try doing a Tyson impression and then try doing an impression of any of those other fighters. The Tyson impression will tire you far quicker because he's simply doing more

Its also an assumption that just because an opponent has 60seconds to get up he is going to do it. Even great fighters will quit (ie stay down) or be ko'd or have their towell thrown in when they are out of their depth and taking a shell shocking

 

No way Wlad is suited for this, he's fragile & when physical pressure is put on him he gasses early & badly; see Brewster I.

 

Well his style will better than Jeffries given Tyson actually had 10 times the boxing skill Jeffries had regardless of era, which is partly due to the era, and the lack of talent pool due to it being a developing sport with less money in it.

JEffries has seriously bad technique and I don't know how the man in this footage can be seen as a threat:

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Based on this footage would you see John Ruiz as a threat under LPR too

Yes Tyson did quit right at the end of his career and fouled out too. Jeffries quit in the biggest fight of his life, quite a difference. And Tyson nearly had as much time out of the ring as Jeffries and abused his body with more substances. I don't see an issue with Tyson's temprerment pre-prison

Going back to the LPR the majority of the forum don't seem to focus on the rounds/stamina issue. Who actually adapts to use their hands with good technique, anyone who punches the same way they do when wrapped/gloved will just break their hands.

A punchers power will also be amplified so I wouldn't rule out Tyson knocking someone out for 60seconds, he knocked out top contenders with cushioned everlast gloves so he could certainly do it without gloves.

BTW am I right in thinking under these rules elbowing is legal? Tyson would have a field day with elbows