The fight of the century

Ali did land more shots, I will give you that, but there were rounds where ali just gave them away clowning in the hope frazier would expire. By contrast the biggest, clearest rounds belonged to frazier who hurt ali way more times. I remember my score card being the same as arthur mercante.

 

SlyCoop,

On the 10-Point system
I hope you gave 'Smokin Joe' 10-8 scores in Round 11 and 15.

Judge Bill Recht, scored it 11-4-0 for Joe,,,,,,,,he was perfect in his scoring.

 

ali may of scored more but thats why fights are scored round by round -the over all punch totals only tell part of the story. suficient force has to be taken into acount on a round by round basis. Frazier drove ali around the ring and hurt him, there were two rounds that could have been scored 10-8 for frazier under the points system. Frazier won a lot of the exchanges and fired back with more meat on his shots with good accuracy. Ali had never been hit so often either. I understand where you are coming from though, you are not wrong just in the minority as to how you see it.

 

Not sure of my exact scorecard, but suffice it to say you're pretty damn looney if you believe Ali won the fight.:good

 

8-6-1 and 9-6 were fair scores by the two judges. 11-4 is nearly as crazy as an Ali win.

 

Pretty much this

 

I think its allot closer on a round by round basis than many think, Frazier lost the first third of the fight and plenty of rounds after that Ali outscored him. I think something like 8-7 to Frazier is reasonable

 

Bill Recht's scoring was ridiculously biased against Ali. He should have gone to specsavers. Joe definitely won that fight,but by a 9 - 6 or 8-6-1 margin.

 

In those days wasnt the person who did most of the clinches get punished for it thats the impression i got when listening to the commentator and all ali did was hug frazier the whole fight. In terms of 10 point must system ali didnt throw any power shots did he? compared to fraziers 100 odd so surely frazier wins.

 

Bill Recht,

In his scoring reasoning;

'I like the aggressive fighter. I am not into that flash-n-jazz. I'll score a round for the
heavier puncher, and the one who employs effective-aggressiveness.'

'Joe Frazier was the aggressor throughout. And by far, landed the harder punches.
Yes he did get hit. But the punches he took were on his act of aggression, not
Ali's act of aggression. Ali was fighting backwards, in the majority of the round.
In my heart, I just cannot give the fighter a round when he's fighting backwards,
unless he outscores his opponent 2-1 in total punches.'

'For instance, the Sonny Liston fight, Ali (Cassius Clay) won differently. He was
fighting backwards and scoring, but Sonny wasn't. This fight here in the Garden was
different, as Joe was clearly landing hard punches.'

 

I had 144-140 to Smokin' Joe

 

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