the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.


  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Trevor Berbick vs Pinklon Thomas

    Berbick - rounds 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11
    Thomas- rounds 1, 3, 4, 6, 12

    Berbick....
     
  2. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Nice fight, good scoring.
     
  3. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, nice fight....By the way.....For Berbick, that was one of his best performances for sure.....maybe the best in my opinion....
     
  4. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I concur, that was Berbick at his absolute Peak.:bbb
     
  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Bennie Briscoe vs Tony Mundine


    Very entertaining boxer-puncher vs pressure fighter matchup and easy to see why Briscoe won.

    Two notable differences in the fighters: 1. Will 2. Durability

    Mundine fought on the backfoot and inside along the ropes when he needed to, before spinning out.He showed good movement, good smooth slipping and blocking and a nice array of quality punches.

    Briscoe did his usual and scored some nice trademark heavy jabs and cuffing rights early on, making Mundine look a bit strained at times, but by and large was being matadored and outlanded.Mundine seemed to be really settling into the flow of the fight, when Briscoe lands a good right and attempts to follow up on the ropes, despite not looking too hurt Mundine stays down and takes the count.

    A sudden end which very clearly highlighted his flaws as a fighter.He had put some serious punches on Briscoe and was probably discouraged he had not been able to put a dent in him so far.

    A shame as with greater poise and determination he likely could have simply continued to do what he was doing and stay a step ahead for the win. Briscoe's workrate and speed of punch had already dropped a couple notches-Bennie though, wanted to win it far more than him.
     
  6. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Yeah, Mundine wasn't particularly less skilled, just lacked that mean edge.
     
  7. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just watched the Pacquiao/Morales trilogy again & it really is breath taking, incredible fights & such a shame to see Eric lose but Pacquiao's speed in the 3rd fight was markably quicker than the 1st/2nd fights. I had 1 & 3 on HBO & 2 with SKY & the only problem with HBO coverage is that none of the ****ers commentating will STFU for a second of any round. To many cook's in the kitchen!!
     
  8. McGrain

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    Rex Layne v Cesar Brion

    This one is a little controversial. Layne was ranked #2 at the time and Brion was an unranked fighter with potential but no ranking. The decision was a split one in favour of the ranked fighter, and according to the times (who scored it 7-3 for Brion) the decision was roundly booed by "many if not a majority".

    It's an ugly foul-filled fight with warnings for both the forearm and the heads (Layne the main offender) but the referee lets them get on with it for the most part with only a couple of warnings given out and no deductions that I could see. Brion, the far more technically gifted of the two, tries to keep Layne outside and then match him when he inevitably gets in, and it's a fascinating tussle if not a classic one.

    Weirdly, given the nature of the fight, it's the jab right-hand, all technically fine, that define the opening round with the edge going to Layne on the aggression. It's odd to see two guys so unbalanced, both by Layne's rushes and launches, rellying on a more technical attack, but they do get busy with shortarm punches also. The second round is defined by rushes, lunges and grappling, but Brion does tag Layne with a beautiful uppercut as he was on his way in on a rush and it seems to cool Layne off. After this he spends a minute or so trying to introduce his jab but persistently falls short of his more rangey opponent. So Layne returns to rushing and that's basically the last nod to tactical subtleties we see throughout the fight.

    The next couple of rounds show a neater Brion struggling to contain a disorganised but physical Layne. Brion also seems weirdly open to Layne's clubbing left-hook which he was sometimes even able to follow through with a right hand. Even though the fight is even after six on my card, Brion looks like he just can't find a solution to the problem at hand and Layne appears to be able to fight the fight he wants to fight. It sort of becomes a question of who might wilt first as the weird pace of the fight punctuated with wrestling and fouling remains hot.

    It looks like it might be Layne to wilt as in the 7th Brion flat out out-lands Layne for the first time - Layne's low hands start to look a liability but he closes well rushing and forcing the fight, remaining the aggressor until the final bell.

    A good hoodlum fight, thaks to GP for putting me onto it, let's see your card GP. Mine:

    Brion: 4,5,7
    Layne: 1,3,8,9,10
    Even: 2,6

    5-3-2 Layne.

    The official cards were 1-4-5, 7-2-1 and 7-3 in Layne's favour, SD.

    NY Times: 7-3 Brion
    AP: 7-3 Layne.


    People seemed generally underwhelmed by Layne who was coming at the time. I'll upload this one tonight or tomorrow for anyone interested.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Been ages since I seen this, will try watch it tomorrow.
     
  10. BlueApollo

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    Mayweather - Castillo I

    Figured I'd go back and take a look at this one since I usually use it against the hardcore Joyboys in General. I went in pretty sure Castillo had won, and came out with a 113-113 draw after the twin point deductions. Lederman's card is very tilted toward Castillo, he gives him the 10th (I disagree, but it's reasonable), then gives him the 11th also, a round I thought Floyd showed some serious grit and beat Castillo at his own game on the inside. Which was a fascinating adjustment really, because Castillo actually starts outjabbing him in the middle rounds, no easy feat, and to start battling on the inside Floyd had to realize it also, requiring more humility than most of us believe he has.

    Definitely not a great fight by any measure, but fairly dramatic down the stretch. Non-fight highlights definitely include Merchant calling out Drakulich for his consistently poor reffing throughout. "Calm down!?!?! Calm Down?!?! It's a FIGHT!!!!"
     
  11. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Those are all great fights in their own way. As a Morales fan, it doesn't get better than watching I or worse than watching the 6th round of II. I can live with III because hey, Manny is a full on beast at that point and most guys not named Erik Morales don't even take that third fight.
     
  12. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    just popped fight 2 in:good i started watching fight 3 with the wife the other day but turned it off. there's no point in watching that fight again. but fight 2 is a different story
     
  13. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The "Manny's improvements aren't that drastic" camp has been gaining steam lately, but you have to be blind not to see that going from Morales I to Morales III, he just becomes a flat out better fighter.

    But that argument is for different threads of course.
     
  14. Twelve

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    Wilfred Benitez vs. Kevin Moley: Had Benitez winning 8 to 2

    Way past his prime, but showed old glimpses of his prime against a much lesser opponent. Benitez is so underrated. He could've been an ATG if he had that passion for training and a steady lifestyle.
     
  15. lora

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    Brian Mitchell vs Jim McDonnell


    A solid classy chessmatch for much of the first half, with McDonnell using lots of lateral movement and Mitchell patiently stalking while picking his counters.

    McDonell's so-so offensive ability and general sharpness declines notably afterward, until he's eventually opting just to leap in and wing punches without any setup, which only allows the poised Mitchell to bang to the body, or counter him.

    Didn't score it but felt Mitchell likely won most of the rounds(the inept Duke McKenzie actually has McDonell winning), though he didn't really have any big ones and didn't land a lot of headshots.All in all a classy, solid performance against one of his better challengers.Good defence and technical skills.


    It's interesting to compare this with the Nelson vs McDonell fight.McDonell has more obvious early to mid success in that one, with Nelson much more reckless and sloppy than Mitchell.The end however displays his dangerous offensive ability with a fading McDonell being gradually brutalised.Mitchell doesn't come anywhere close to that savagery, but operates better from his comfort zone as far as controlling the whole fight is concerned, yet is never quite able to step up a gear and turn things into a real clinic.