style of boxing

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    a boxer puncher likes to fight at arms length, get off his combinations, slowly but surely get you in his range and let his hands go, keeping his defense relatively tight.

    a swarmer will put nonstop pressure. try to get inside your reach. force you to fight when you don't want to fight.

    Totally different. Kotsya Tszyu is a boxer-puncher. Ricky Hatton is a swarmer.
     
  2. war4years

    war4years Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i find it interesting that ppl often say sluggers lack skill. being able to get inside and land bombs takes skill. being able to knock ppl out takes skill. you often see so called "boxers" trying to knock ppl out to no avail.
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    What do you label your hero emmanuel to be? I've seen him get called a slugger in the past. The current gen pacfags often refer to him as boxer-puncher though. He has a high volume of punches, but he doesn't do that phone booth Julio Cesar Chavez style like your stereotypical swarmer.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    power and skill are different, but both are important in boxing. Sluggers have some skill as well, often getting their shots off from places where most people would have no idea how to hit the target. They also have some kind of third sense for their opponent's vulnerabilities, and can often take their opponent's confidence. They are usually great finishers as well.

    I think the ultimate matchup for the slugger is the pressure fighter, or sometimes against an outboxer, you just know they can pull a win out of the hat..


    these molds are not perfect though. You have to adapt a little. But when I bet, I do look at general stylistic tendencies such as these.

    For instance I believe a swarmer will beat an outboxer, but will lose to a counterpuncher. I belive a slugger will beat a swarmer. I believe an outboxer or boxer-puncher will give a counterpuncher hell. That a boxer-puncher can take a slugger.

    I actually consider boxer-punchers and outboxers as similar styles in terms of how they match up with others.. They like to be given time to pick their shots, and generally like to get off first and then get back to defense.
     
  5. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    slugger who turned into a boxer puncher I guess
     
  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Would you say Ali was a outboxer that turned into a boxer puncher in the 70's?
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    He's kind of a cross between a boxer/puncher, an out-boxer, a slugger, and a counter-puncher. I wouldn't call him a swarmer. Young Pac was a cross between a slugger and a boxer-puncher with basic counterpunching ability.
     
  8. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I found it cool that when i saw the list i was able to find a boxer in each category.
    Outboxer - Malignaggi, Whitaker
    Boxer/Puncher - Marquez, SRL (imo)
    Slugger - Margarito
    Swarmer - Hatton, Tyson
    Counter-Puncher - Mayweather

    These are just the fighters, from the top of my head, that i think fit in these categories
     
  9. PH|LLA

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    Margarito is a swarmer as well. People say he's one dimensional but he has those two dimensions to him. You know a slugger would be someone like Mayorga, or Urango, or Miranda.
     
  10. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hm good thinking, i forgot about miranda and urango, im having trouble putting khan and bradley in one of these categories. I think Khan would be best in Boxer/puncher but bradley fights like hes a slugger kind of, always going in and throwing lots of punches
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    Bradley is kind of a cross between an outboxer, a counterpuncher, and a swarmer. He is very versatile like that.

    Khan is an outboxer all the way. Very much one-dimensional. (a good fighter though). He is starting to learn to sit on his punches and also counterpunch a little.
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think counter punching is a tecnique and a style.
    A boxer who relies on the counter punch as his main wepoen is a counter-puncher.
    This dose not mean that a boxer who uses another style can not counter punch.
     
  13. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    A swarmer is always a pressure fighter. A boxer-puncher doesn't rely on sheer pressure, but more on well timed, heavy punches instead. He will apply pressure when the opportunity is presented, of course, or if the opponent's style warrants pressure in order to be neutralized.
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    boxers are not only one style. Most of them are a mix of several styles.
     
  15. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Margarito is definitely NOT a slugger. Or at least he's way more of a swarmer than a slugger.