Terry McGovern, from August 4, 1898 to May 29, 1901 went 39-0-2(34 KO's) against the likes of Joe Gans, George Dixon X2, Frank Erne, Aurelio Herrera, Oscar Gardner, Tommy White, Eddie Santry, Harry Forbes, Pedlar Palmer, Casper Leon, etc. while ripping away the Bantamweight, Featherweight, and Lightweight championships of the world (those titles attained in a span of a mere 9 months, all won by KO).
Robinson from debut to Turpin loss .... well over 120 bouts with only one decision defeat to a hall of famer in his prime with a 17 pound weight advantage which was avenged multiple times ... tough to beat that one ....
yeah it's a good one. i just think that charles' and armstrong's runs are more 'dense' somehow. charles was 3-0 against the (maybe) second best light heavyweight of all time.
If it's just straight up best runs, and not necessarily from one loss to another, than I don't see how Robinson's first 12 years can be outdone. That kind of sustained dominance over such quality of opposition across such a long period of time is just insane.
Joe Louis, after the defeat to Schmeling in 1936, unbeaten up to his loss to Charles in 1950. And champion for almost 12 years within that period, with 25 championship defences. He knocked out every man he faced in that time, except for Tommy Farr. (Pastor, Godoy and Walcott also went the distance ... but were KO'd in rematches).
:thinkneither of them are going into the hall of fame though... HOFs (or potential HOFs) he did fight: Kosta Tszyu-Lost Oscar x 2-Lost both Pernell-Lost Hector Camacho-Won Ramirez-Won Now most of those loses were after his unbeaten run but during his big streak he only beat one possible hall of famer in ramirez and lost to pernell. He holds wins over many solid top 10 contenders but compared to the runs of robinson, armstrong, and charles he falls FAR short
Harry had two good eyes at the time (or else the US Navy never would have accepted him for service), and he turned 25 in June. He entered 1919 with over 130 bouts worth of experience already behind him, against the likes of the brothers Gibbons, the Chip boys, southpaw champion Al McCoy (Harry was never shy about taking on lefties) Blackburn, Moha, Miske, O'Dowd, Bartfield, Dillon, McTigue, Levinski, Jeff Smith, McGoorty, Gunboat, ect... Greb was already a monster when the year began. Bill Brennan was the primary victim of this preparation. All four meetings between Harry and K.O. Bill took place in 1919. Even if Greb-Tunney I and Greb-Walker someday surface, we can be pretty confident of not ever being able to see the two eyed beast he was in 1919. (Something else remarkable about his campaign that year was that he only produced five stoppages in this 45 matches.) If I were to hazard a guess as to his best win, it might be Brennan in Tulsa on the Fourth of July, one of his two battles over the championship distance.
From Feb 1917 to to Aug 1924 (his first retirement) Benny Leonard went 43-1. I do not think this includs Newspapre decisions. In which he has many more wins and one loss and a draw. His loss was a dq to Jack Britton.
which is still a strange stand out on his record. i've heard rumours that this dq is slightly shady. any thoughts people?
J, In an old article I read that Mannie Seamon,a Benny Leonard trainer claimed that just before The Britton fight in 1922,Leonards mgr. Billy Gibson, insisted that Leonard "could not win tonight",and Benny broke down in his dressing room. Events later during the bout proved that this was probably true as Leonard,after dropping Welterweight Jack Britton to the floor in the 13th round,and uncharacteristically hit Britton while the referee was counting. And Benny Leonard was disqualified in the 13th round...Cheers J...