F***-off

You sir, are merely pointing out the OBVIOUS facts, that any fool with eyes could see. If anyone dares to deny the reality of Joe "Slappy White" Calzaghe not being the biggest hype in recent boxing history, they are probably doing so while on their knees sucking Slappy off.
The truth is, Slappy was extremely content sitting back in Wales fighting bums while Ale soaked drunken "fans" threw money (and beer cans) in the ring to boost their fake champion while the guys above were facing the best and earning their pedigrees the old fashioned way. By fighting the division's best. :yep

 

Same ole weak ass excuses we see everytime Slappy's hype is uncovered for all to see.
Bottom line is, that Hopkins-Calzaghe did not meet is solely the fault of Slappy.
Hopkins is an undisputed ATG and headed for the HOF. No one questions hopkin's legacy.
The hype that is always in doubt in every geography other than England is Joe "Slappy White" Calzaghe. Those are the facts. in front of the lame excuses. :yep

 

Face it u just got sour grapes about a white boy beating these "slick" black american legends...atsch
now go do something constructive u racist bellend..

 

Joe himself in his autobiography said that RJJ was done and finished as a fighter

then

he fights him

and takes it back


ROFL

 

And Joe couldnt even finish lacy after much more punishment he administered,


Whos better Pavlik or Lacy ?:hey

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9176953#post9176953

True Stories:

Calzaghe postponed fights with Johnson a few times due to injuries. When Johnson got beaten by Sheika, Calzaghe destroyed Sheika.

When Calzaghe agreed to fight Hopkins for something along the lines of $3 million in 2002/2003, Hopkins demanded double the money. There wasn't that sort of money available for the fight, and Hopkins instead took a fight for something like $300,000 instead.

Roy Jones Jr. was already at 175 before Calzaghe even got his first title shot at 168 (1997). That fight was never in demand or even seriously discussed, to my knowledge.

 

he didn't lose a fight for EIGHTEEN YEARS...and your still talking about him...go cry into your King Cobra, Homey..

 

he ruined Lacy...thats worse...

 

Everyone ducked old Joe

 

Calzaghe is the greatest Welsh super middleweight of all time.

 

Note sure why poeple love to put Calzaghe's resume under the mircoscope so much - he beat Eubank, Ried, Woodhall, Lacy, Kessler and Hopkins and all of those are good/great wins.

You can focus on the bad for many fighters and make such negative posts but you are ignoring the positives which make a fighter great.

 

racist...

 

i certainly agree with this. :good

 

I agree with most of what you say, and i too believe Calzaghe gets way too many plaudits from all corners. His level of competition is really mediocre, and there is no doubt he should of travelled years earlier than he did. But people blame Frank Warren, but really how much blame can be laid upon him? After all if he really believed in Joe in those days would'nt he of seen the $ signs and had Joe in big fights sooner. At the same time should'nt Joe of pushed Frank for more meaningful fights? Or were there both just happy earning decent money defending the then lightly regarded WBO belt?
The Lacy fight it seemed gave them both confidence to then chase the big fights, and while it was a sensational performance, we now know Lacy was'nt what he was made up to be.
The Kessler fight though showed me, and can't really be argued against that Joe could fight at the highest level and prevail. That is a fight i will always give Joe tons of credit for, because of the level of boxing he proved he was capable of, and the way he was able to adapt and prevail against a formidable opponent, has all great fighters do.
The biggest dissapointment with Joe, is that after a win like that, he just reverted back to the level of competition from previous years and did'nt really push on. I don't blame him for the pension fund fights with Roy and Bernard, fair enough. But no one will ever be fooled by those two hollow victories, and the end of his career leaves a bad taste in the mouth with me, had does 90% of it.
In my eyes Joe proved he could hold his own at the highest level but only done it once, maybe twice in his whole career. And that is not the career of an ATG!
Something else i would like to point out, is although he just might be a better fighter than Benn and Eubank, you've just got to look at the wars those two were in , in the space of 6 + 8 years respectively. Although Eubank had a mediocre run he had already proven himself in fights with Benn and Watson, Calzaghe's resume does'nt come close to either of these men, and are these two regarded ATGs?
ATG no way, he is'nt even the best super-middle to come out of Britain.

 

People go to all lengths to discredit Calzaghe because they cant except the facts he beat everyone. But they often fail to tell the whole story or even know who some of his opponents were. The mentioned as opponents were all LHWs except Johnson who was a constant loser. Calzaghe was a SMW, so your clutching at straws and not named any potential SMW challengers ie Calzaghes division atsch.
Mkertchyan and Veit are more accomplished SMWs than someone you may recognise like Dirrell. And Woods who you note to have a better resume lost to Starie who you criticize Calzaghe for beating.atsch Muppet
With Taylors last 13 opponents they fail to mention he got beat 4 times by 3 of them and 3 of them were smaller fighters.
With Hopkins last 8 fighters 4 of them were against smaller fighters and he lost to Calzaghe .
With Tarvers last 13 fights mentioned he lost 5 of them

Calzaghe beat top SMWs in
Eubank
Reid
Woodhall
Mitchell
Lacy
Kessler

As well as contenders like
Brewer
Bika
Sheika
Manfredo
Veit (twice)
Mkertchyan

Calzaghes last 6 fights with the results are better than the above you mention.
I notice you didnt note Calzaghes last few fights

Jones - Ring top 10 rated LHW
Hopkins - Ring LHW champ
Kessler - #1 SMW undefeated WBC WBA champ
Manfredo - Ring top 10 rated SMW
Bika - Ring top 10 rated SMW
Lacy - Ring rated SMW undefeated IBF champ

I could go in slaughter your thread, but im bored with repeating myself to ignorant fools.


Just look at G Johnsons SMW resume 6-6-0 with his biggest win being over A Green coming off a loss, and people note Johnson atsch