Cotto: Hall of Fame Worthy? Or Not?

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  1. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This kind of branched off from an earlier discussion and I wanted to see what people think.

    My opinion: I think Cotto is an excellent fighter, exciting to watch, and will take on any challenge. That being said, given his accomplishments I do not consider him a Hall of Fame fighter.

    Certain aspects that bug me about Cotto being inducted to the Hall of Fame would be:

    *He's only TAKEN the belt from one champion, Yuri Foreman. All other belts were vacant.

    *He's never been regarded as the absolute best in his division. He had a chance at 147, but was KO'd by Margarito, had a close/disputed decision win against Clottey, and was KO'd by Pacquiao.

    *If you let Cotto in, there are a lot of other boxers who would meet the same criteria that would ALSO need to be let in. I fail to see how Cotto has accomplished more than Roger Mayweather to use a quick example.


    Just wanted to see some thoughts on Cotto and his Hall of Fame chances? I think he'll be remembered as a very good fighter who was just short of being "great."

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Current resume good enough? If he quit tomorrow, would you have him in?

    You said "future." Does that mean you think he needs to accomplish more? Just asking for more specificity.
     
  4. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People say he took vacant belts but look who he defended it against at 140 and 147. The best out there. Had a chance to unify twice at 147 (Margarito and Clottey) but the IBF got in the way.

    Cotto IMO definitely is a future HOF
     
  5. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    It would have to be "future" because you have to wait five years after you retire. It doesn't matter who it is, even Pacquiao and Mayweather are only "future" HOFers.
     
  6. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know that.. but was asking if the guy quit boxing tomorrow: would that be good enough to make the Hall?

    Saying "future" and not following it up leaves some speculation about his meaning. Could easily mean: "I see him reaching that status in the future."
     
  7. greigorypeck

    greigorypeck Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto would have beaten Margarito if it wasn't for the bricks battering his skull. I reckon a rematch win over Marg would seal it. I mean even Kostya Tyszu is in the HOF
     
  8. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  9. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you add a poll? I've never done it before....

    Thanks for the article, will check it out. :good

    Edit -- Nevermind, figured out the poll thing.
     
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    Reilence Grepolis Mania Full Member

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    isn't everyone who's discussed often here?
     
  12. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Added a poll.

    Bah, kind of not happy with the options... The regular "No" should be "No, not at this time."
     
  13. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  14. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bert Sugar from the linked article: Thanks for that link!

    "Miguel Cotto in the hall of fame? Only as soon as Harry Jeffra gets in,” boxing historian Bert Sugar told RingTV.com.

    In other words, there are fighters with better credentials than Cotto who deserve more hall of fame consideration.

    “Cotto is on the cusp,” Sugar continued. “He’s won three championships in two divisions. That’s not bad, but it’s not enough. A win on Saturday would give him a title in a third division, which would extend his career, but I’m not sure that makes him hall of fame worthy. There are more accomplished fighters I believe are on the cusp -- Oscar De La Hoya for instance -- that I would vote in before Cotto.

    “Don't get me wrong. Cotto’s had a heck of a career. He beat a lot of good fighters and he’s the biggest ticket seller out of Puerto Rico right now, but I can’t call what he’s had so far a great career because he lost his two biggest fights, to Margarito and Pacquiao.”

    Sugar's first comment is kind of how I feel. Looking back at boxing history, there are a lot of good fighters that are not in the Hall of Fame. I think it should remain a very exclusive group.
     
  15. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's more than good enough. His resume is stacked with good and very good fighters and a great in Shane Mosley:

    Cezar Bazan - WBC lightweight champion
    Carlos Maussa - WBA JWW champion
    Lovemore N'dou - IBF JWW champion
    Ricardo Torres - WBO JWW champion
    Randall Bailey - WBO JWW champion
    Demarcus Corley - WBO JWW champion
    Paul Malignaggi - IBF JWW champion
    Carlos Quintana - WBO welterweight champion
    Zab Judah - undisputed welterweight champ, 3x JWW champion
    Shane Mosley - 3 weight world champion
    Joshua Clottey - IBF welterweight champion
    Yuri Foreman - WBA JMW champion
    Ricardo Mayorga - 2 weight world champion

    And other good boxers who were never champions.

    Cotto is underrated these days.

    Harry Jeffra? There is a reason he is not there after all this time. He doesn't belong there.