Pac vs Mayweather Finally Happening!!!

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  1. grimlocked

    grimlocked Active Member Full Member

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    in court, that is. :D

    http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=21448

    "In a written opinion released today, Judge Hicks wrote, “defendants’ alleged statements are actionable defamatory statements because they falsely assert an objective fact: namely, that Pacquiao was using and had used PEDs. First, the court finds that a reasonable listener would understand and interpret the moving defendants’ statements to imply that Pacquiao has used and is using PEDs... Further, the court finds that the alleged statements are presupposed facts not available to a reasonable listener but that a reasonable listener would assume implied actual knowledge of the statement’s truth.” Judge Hicks listed the following examples of statements that would convince a listener that there was proof that Pacquiao took PEDs: De La Hoya’s comparing Pacquiao’s punches as similar to other fighters who have taken PEDs; Floyd Mayweather, Jr.’s statements that Pacquiao’s physical development is a result of the Phillippines having access to the best performance enhancing drugs and also that Pacquiao has “the power pellets, yo, the steroid juice”; and Schaefer’s statement that he “was sure” that Pacquiao uses PEDs. A trial date has not been set."
     
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  2. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    they should be putting pen to paper instead of all this ***** ducking bs
     
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  3. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    10-9 Manny Pacquiao!!
     
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  4. grimlocked

    grimlocked Active Member Full Member

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    If Floyd loses money on this case, he might actually be forced to fight Pac.:D
     
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  5. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Impossible for the plaintiff to prove on multiple levels:

    First, you have to prove THEY KNEW their statements were false. Pacquiao has not submitted to random testing, and has not cleared this issue with any certainty. The defendants do not work with Mr. Pacquiao directly, and therefore, are due their right of opinion.

    Second, You have to prove their statements were made with malice. In other words: These statements were meant for the sole purpose of harming Mr. Pacquiao. Practically impossible to prove in court.

    Third, You have to prove that their statements resulted in "harm" to Mr. Pacquiao. Given his soaring popularity, multi-million dollar fights, and sponsorships, that is impossible to prove.

    This case doesn't have a chance. Nothing but a smoke screen by Team Pacquiao. If you're famous, defamation is VERY hard to prove to downright impossible. Otherwise, you would not have magazines like the National Enquirer and others like it. They would be sued and shut down.
     
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  6. grimlocked

    grimlocked Active Member Full Member

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    You have nothing to worry about then.
     
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  7. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh

    You mean Mayweather?
     
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  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So why are you so happy?
     
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  9. Relentless

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    someone summarize the first post please.

    p.s floyd and pac are homos.
     
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  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    and they like to let lawyers butt**** them and take their green
     
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  11. lemuelskee

    lemuelskee Member Full Member

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    man that's just stupid!

    if i accuse you now that you are GAY and you should submit to a butt-test, and if you are not gonna do it that means that you are REALLY GAY AND MY STATEMENT AINT FALSE because you didnt submit to a BUTT-TEST?

    You are guilty until otherwise proven innocent?
     
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  12. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's the law. Read it. Stupid or not, that is how the law is written.

    It has nothing to do with you being right or wrong about your opinion and more to do with "knowingly making false statements for the intent of malicious harm on an individual." You can't sue people for being ignorant or stupid, sorry.

    It is much easier to prove defamation when you are NOT a public figure. Everybody in public view has people making false statements about them, it comes with the territory. Like I said, read the law. The burden of proof is on the PLAINTIFF in defamation to prove it was malicious and harm was done, not the defendant to justify their opinion.
     
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  13. PH|LLA

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    Senator Reid returning the favour :smoke

    pushing those buttons
     
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  15. ciscobox

    ciscobox ..ı|ı...ı|ı.. Full Member

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    :lol:

    lets see how this whole drama unfolds.
    So the court is still on it, and yet we have two smart mayweathers who keep on saying pac is on peds on every interview.
     
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