Vitali is probably between 30-50 on the top HW's list. Wlad is between 15-25.... around the likes of Riddick Bowe.
I am not a fan of either Klit brother, but don't know how many guys you can rank above them without debate as far as top 20 goes....For my money Wlad is in the 16-18 range already and Vitali is in the 20-25 range....even if they never fight again. Who are these 20 HW's you rate unequvically above him/them????
1 Louis 2 Ali 3 Johnson 4 Marciano 5 Holmes 6 Foreman 7 Frazier 8 Liston 9 Lewis 10 Holyfield 11 Dempsey 12 Tyson 13 Jeffries 14 Schmelling 15 Charles 16 Walcott 17 Wills 18 Wlad 19 Langford 19 Bowe 20 Patterson 21 Vitali This is by no means complete as there remain numerous guys I am still researching/evaluating as I go along...but I don't see how there are 20+ that dwarf Wlad or vitali either by resume or hypothetical H2H scenerios????
I would say these 15 (no particular order) definitively rank higher than vitali (assuming he and wlad retire today) Joe Louis Muhammad Ali Jack Johnson Larry Holmes George Foreman Lennox Lewis Mike Tyson Evander Holyfield Sam Langford Wladimir Klitschko Rocky Marciano Joe Frazier Jack Dempsey James J. Jeffries Max Schmeling I'd say the next bracket of fighters is of the patterson/bowe/vitali bracket.
respectable list. i put langford and wlad slightly higher. i haven't split my top 15 yet. but i'm guessing it wouldn't be far removed from your own. i don't have charles, liston in my top 15.
a rough split would be top 3 (no order) - Louis, Ali, Marciano Next 2 (no order) - Lewis, Foreman Next 5 (no order) - Frazier, Holyfield, Tyson, Johnson, Holmes Last 5 (no order) - Dempsey, Jeffries, Schmelling, Langford, Wladimir
I would question why Liston (and charles to a lesser degree) would not be in a top 15 list??? Langford is one of those guys that I am looking into currently. he makes my top 6 P4P ATG list, I am learning more about his HW resume right now.