Rumor: Mayorga vs. Canelo in the works. Predictions?

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Kirk, you need to relax and actually THINK!! For once ok? Is Mayorga past his prime? Duh of course. But is he a shot in the dark fighter? Nah. If he was soo done and so shot then don't you think Mosley (before the Margarito fight) and Cotto should have easily beat him up? Both of those fights were close ones until the ko happen in which tells me all i need to know about what Mayorga has left. Both Ndou and Hatton are not even close to Mayorga level. And i bet right now Mayorga would easily beat those 2 like nothing.
     
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  2. irishny

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    That Mosely fight was almost 3 years ago.

    Hes shot. Alvarez uses him to pad his record before the big fights come.
     
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  3. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh yea the fighter A beats B so B has to beat C.

    Always works in boxing!!!

    And to be honest i pick Hatton to beat Mayorga based on youth. Ndou probably also beats him based on better defense and technique.
     
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  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    He's not a shot fighter. He didn't get beat up by Mosley and Cotto (That happen last saturday btw). He was ko by in those both fights,but he got ko in the 12th in which tells me he still got something left in the tank.
     
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  5. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    :lol: Come on saul seriously. Are we talking about Matthew Hatton? :lol: And btw Hatton ain't a defensive fighter. He fights basically like his fat brother Ricky but Matthew doesn't clinch alot in which i respect him but lets behonest Matthew is nothing more then a d level fighter that is living the shadow of his older brother Ricky. Ndou? Lol my laugh is all you need to know how i feel about him except he is a tough fighter that never been stopped but other then that? He's a c minus fighter at best and he's really a jww.
     
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  6. kirk

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    Sorry Ray, were just going to disagree. Mayorga, imo, is shot.

    I think the reason he was able to go 11 with cotto is because back when he was actually a force, he would have bullied Cotto, and stopped him. That transforms over to a shot, 38 year old Mayorga whos taken beatings and straight KO's to him hanging in there for 11 rounds but being fairly well controlled, and then stopped. But due to how badly I think Mayorga would have beaten Cotto back in the day, it makes sense that even a shot Mayorga can go rounds with a slightly past it, imo, Cotto.

    You keep saying Ndou is not close to Mayorgas level.... man, that has nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with durability. At all. None. And isnt relivent to the conversation. Ndou isnt on Cottos level, but I can tell you who the more durable fighter is. Being someones 'level', or not, has nothing to do with how durable you are or arent. Trust, I am not the one that isnt thinking here.

    Best believe if this fight happens, I will be rooting for Mayorga to pull it off, but he wont. And Ill remind you, when hes stopped, why that is.

    Until then, we simply disagree.
     
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  7. kirk

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    I would pick even this Mayorga to beat both, but thats not what we are talking about here. You criticised Canelo for not being able to stop them, which has nothing to do with their level of ability.
     
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  8. saul_ir34

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    Exactly and for me to pick them really says something about Mayorgas current state. If Hatton and Mayorga fought i would put some good money on Hatton. Hatton is no defensive wiz but he is awkward enough to not get hit much. Also his activity would give Mayorga problems who i dont think hits harder than Canelo does at the moment.
     
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  9. H .

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    good test for Alvarez... if it happens
     
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  10. kirk

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    The only thing he has left in the tank is more beatings. Mayorga needs to retire, he is shot. And I am a Mayorga fan.

    Just because someone can be more shot, doesnt mean they are not shot right now. If mayorga keeps fighting, he will eventually become worse and worse, punch resistence decline more and more, become even more stiff, legs get worse, and hell become slower, but just because there is always a next level down, and there always will be, doesnt mean hes not still shot.

    Also, the Cotto fight wasnt as close as youre trying to make it seem.

    And you keep saying Mosley, the Mosley fight was over TWO YEARS AGO :lol: Do you know how long two years is for a guy like Mayorga whos in his late 30's, and who doesnt live a healthly lifestyle nor is a gym rat?

    So take a past it Mayorga in the Vargas and Mosley fights, add a devistating KO, some inactivity, two years (to make him 38 and whatever bad habits he continues to do in those two years, and then add another stoppage loss to Cotto, and yes... that translates into a done fighter.

    Bottom line is, that I think Saul will beat Mayorga..... and do so by stoppage.

    If Mayorga can make it to the final bell if its a 12 round fight then I will be one happy fan.
     
    kirk, Mar 22, 2011
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  11. irishny

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    He got pretty much dominated by Cotto for the whole fight,before quitting in the 12th,and many would argue that Cotto isnt the fighter that he once was.
     
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  12. Dustaine

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    You are blinded by nationalistic pride.
     
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  13. saul_ir34

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    Hatton and Ndou are not Mexican.

    You are the one who is blinded for your hate for the Mexican fighter. Always negative posts on us.

    Canelo couldnt hit Hatton clean with his more precise punches You think Mayorga will? Not to mention Hatton has good stamina unlike Mayorga.

    Ndou i did say probably but if anyone is gonna give its going to be Mayorga not Ndou. That guy is as tough as they come.
     
    saul_ir34, Mar 22, 2011
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  14. Dustaine

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    They are not Mexican, but they were beaten by a Mexican fighter. You know better. Now Mayorga has stamina problems... k...

    I do have something negative to say about the turd that is Chávez Jr., who wouldn't be more than a D level fighter in a gym if it weren't for his father's name and TVAzteca. I have nothing negative to say about Álvarez, but he is too green yet.
     
    Dustaine, Mar 22, 2011
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    This would make me sad.

    Alvarez would knock him out, which would help propel his already rising star a bit higher a bit faster...that part I'd be OK with...

    It's just the fact that it would come at Mayorga's expense. At the expense of his already thinning legacy. At the expense of his already damaged pride. At the expense of his already uncertain well-being (because this would be a slugfest, and he would be taking lots of bombs compared to his last couple of fights).

    :verysad

    I don't want the fight. If we get it; I'll be reluctantly picking Alvarez and reluctantly rooting against him.
     
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