If Haye Knocked Vitali out....

If Haye stopped Vitali then I seriously doubt that Wlad would ever fight him.

Thats why I would prefer Wladimir-Haye & it would be a better, more exciting fight.

 

It would depend how Vitali looked in the fight up til that point. If he is clearly a lot slower around the ring than Wlad then you could reasonably assume age has caught up with him. Even if Haye has all time great power there is no guarantee he will land cleanly on Wlad before he himself is stopped

 

Ruiz: ****, propped up for years by the WBA, smashed in 1 round by Tua.

Fragomeni: Not notable. At all

Enzo: Spent the last couple of years since the haye fight getting knocked the **** out by anyone he has faced

Bonin: Even less notable than Fragomeni

Mormeck: David Haye's most notable opponent, arguably. Ponder that for a second.

Haye's done a great job of convincing everyone he's in with a shout. It's like Haye/Harrison all over again on a slightly different scale. You know when Haye said 'Audley will fancy his chances until I'm stood across the ring from him in a pair of 10 Oz gloves". Ditto for this fight, only it will be Haye shittin' himself.

 

You can be just as selective about Vitali or Wlad. Vitali’s ledger is downright appalling, plus he lost to the two best men he’s faced. The best name after that is Sam Peter.

Wlad’s still looking for a defining fight, but has beaten better opposition. Hardly near the calibre of Lewis’ wins though, is it?

You can pull anyone’s resume to pieces if you want.

 

I'm not saying they were great fighters but his record is hardly awful, he's fought the only people of note open to except K2 and whilst I think the Klit's will win, to say he hasn't stopped any of note is just plain wrong. Whilst I agree with almost all of what you said, Ruiz had only been stopped by Tua and was a former world champion, Bonin and Frag hadn't been beaten I don't think before stepping in the ring with Haye and Enzo had only been stopped previously in one of his first few fights and was a world champion at the time.

To compare this fight to Haye/Harrison is a joke, Haye is I'd say faster than Solis and he managed to land on Vitali and if Vitali is over the hill I can see him being stopped by Haye if he gets a few decent shots off, not to mention Haye has a lot more heart than Harrison and won't just capitulate like Harrison did. Don't get me wrong I think Wlad would stop Haye, and stop him early (that will change when the fight gets nearer and my bias patriotism kicks in) but you can't say this wouldn't be either of the brothers hardest fight since Lewis stopped Vitali and depending on how far Vitali has declined, he could be beaten.

 

No because if it were in Germany he would still have lost.

 

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Agreed, save for Bonin, was that a joke?

 

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Haye damaged his right hand early on in the valuev fight,he admits he wasnt as busy and aggresive as he planned to be.

But i do also think he was half expecting a long fight,and that valuev would be super tough to KO.Valuev is just super freaky,i bet he has a thick skull that is actually brick wall like!.

Vitali and wlad wont be as hard to hurt,and being slightly shorter than valuev,haye will get more power on his punches.

i expect haye not to unload too much,but to hit and move,get at angles from which to explode 3 quick powerful punches at a time.

 

"If" a meteorite hit Vitali, If, ad infintum........... Vitali would murder Haye easily. Haye would have zero chance. Vlad will knock Haye out also.

 

Wlad is THE man at Heavyweight

A win over Vitali would make Haye Number two...

 

Exactly. Whereas against Wlad, Haye will be thinking more along the lines of ''I HAVE to stop this guy early, because I'm not getting in to a jab, jab, grab boxing match with him''.