If Pacquiao had agreed to random testing They would have already fought.

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  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Had emmanuel agree to testing, FLoyd wouln't have had the time to think of the crazy AZZ idea to AZZk for $100 mil.
     
  2. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    Why would he think of the crazy ass idea in the first place? Your boy is a duck.
     
  3. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So your saying Pac can make demands no matter how crazy they are but Floyd does not have the right to because he came in overweight before? How many fights have Manny had where the weight advantage is on his side? I believe it's every fight he has had since he moved to the 147lb class So if he can make demands why no one else is able? I say scrap the demands and just get the fight on. Floyd and Manny take there chances at each other and may the best man win.
     
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    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any style drug test is nothing either if you have nothing to hide.
     
  5. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    Floyd taking chances? Haha! ***** please!

    We all know and Its ****ing clear as day that Floyd can make 147, The 10m per pound over was only an insurance because Floyd had history of cheating weight.

    Scrap the demands? OSDT? 100 Million dollars? Hahaha! You are ****ing blind.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    you misunderstood my point, pac's demand has basis. floyd's demand has no basis other than his father and his own suspicion. floyd can demand anything but not on the premise of his father's accusations.

    i agree on the last part of your post. scrap all the demands and may the best man win. pac had already agreed with floyd's random blood test though. floyd meanwhile has new demands each time. the latest is the $100M purse if we are to believe both roger and arum. floyd has to end his vacation first.
     
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    I agree with the thread starter. People can say all they want now about floyd making excuses but the truth is this:

    Everyone and i mean everyone who knows boxing knows how floyd is. When floyd came back and they sat down to about making the fight it seemed floyd was being very hospitable, surprisingly so. He went 50-50 on the money (no one thought he would) he agreed to the gloves (even though 10oz are regulation in las vegas for ww fights), he even accept the 10mil over the limit penalty. It seemed all floyd wanted was to fight in vegas and have random testing. That seems very reasonable to me. He enev bent on the testing and said 14 days. Now that riight there was the best deal ANYONE was ever gonna get from floyd considering how he is. If i know that then im sure arum , pac and his team knew that. Guess what? Pac and his team turned it down and then lied about it. That was all i needed to see to know who is ducking who. Everything after that has been smoke screens from arum and co. You dont turn down the best deal you can get and then say the other guy is ducking. IMO i think everything after that has just been floyd telling arum and pac to kiss his butt
     
  8. Anima

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    Then explain 100m dollars and he's on vacation mode. When Pac already agreed to the tests.
     
  9. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    :deal
     
  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
     
  11. comanick

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    i find the context you use this in funny. Let me ask a question. If floyd and manny fought can we be pretty sure manny is going to get knocked out considering he has a History of getting knocked out?

    i know it sounds like a dumb question but you are using HISTORY in that same context.
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

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    and you probably missed all the media tirades of the maywethers and even GBP on how pacquiao was allegedly using A-side meth? you don't negotiate in good faith and at the same time, accusing them of cheating. it's convenient for to say that floyd had to agree with all of these things but pac was coming on a better PPV performance with 1.25M buys against cotto against 1.05M buys of floyd-jmm. so it was basically pac agreeing to a 50-50 deal. floyd fought jmm with 8oz gloves so it would be a ***** move if he forced pac to wear a pillow as gloves. besides, floyd get the venue in vegas where it was his hometown and also got the billing and he would enter the ring last.

    both of them could not settle on a cut-off date according to the arbiter but when floyd took a vacation and told us there were no negotiations, it was all smokescreen? you have a selective memory i guess.
     
  13. comanick

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    When did pac agree to the tests. To this day he has not. Oh do you mean when he decided to agree to a deal he already walked away from and then got mad cause floyd would wasnt going for that bs.
     
  14. osreyes77

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    Pac already undergoes testing by the commision and even went the extra mile to accomidate Floyd's demands of extra testing with the exception that blood testing be stopped 7 days prior to the fight.

    Making weight isnt a bargaining tool. If you're contracted to fight at 147, then either you make it or get penalized such as in the case of Floyd vs Marquez when Floyd payed Marquez $600k when he didnt make the contractual weight of 144lbs.
     
  15. JUSTAFIGHTFAN

    JUSTAFIGHTFAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Okey genius, guess where does this ped thing started.