If Pacquiao had agreed to random testing They would have already fought.

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  1. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    http://beatsboxingmayhem.com/2010/11/12/manny-pacquiao-politics-as-usual/
     
  2. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So many can make excuses for Pac actions for not taking the test, but I can garantee you if any other boxer was in Manny place and all they had to do was agree to a drug test for the type of money that will be made for this fight they would of done it. The average person on the street would of took it as well. Your defending ass would of took it to. There's some that would of took for a lot less. Pac wants to wear the good guy image claiming he's for the people, well the people would of took the test. So why insn't this people chump doing it for the people.
     
  3. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    Anyone who believe sanely about boxing would quickly think that Floyd is being out of proportion in demanding such kind of test and it was very obvious he is only making an escape of facing Pacquiao. Everyone is aware what had happened from the very beginning how Manny had agreed and tried to meet with the terms but to no avail as the demands had eventually escalate to even more complexity from the Mayweathers resulting Arum and Paquiao group to cease in pursuing Floyd. I don't think Floyd Mayweather Jr and his camp really had the intention to fight Pacquiao, he would have accepted it long time ago if he really wanted without any hesitation or condition. Random testing or not, Mayweather will never think or even imagine to face Pacquiao in the ring. Floyd is just afraid.
     
  4. Gotoneto

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    i agree with you.

    there is just one reason why mayweather was able to successfully duck this fight.

    Had emmanual agreed to the random testing during the first round of negotiations, mayweather would have countered with the 100 million dollar payday demand right away.

    this circus would've never been dragged this long and we wouldn't have been kept hanging...

    all credits go to none other than the 100 million dollar man! :lol:
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    No I watched the interview, the interviewer guessed 100million, he happened to be exactly right according to Uncle Bob :patsch

    You Lose :deal
     
  6. comanick

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    It seems you have selective memory because you are mixing up time periods. they brought in the abritrator during the first round. Did floyd go on vaca after the first round or did he go fight the guy that pac was ducking? After pac ducked the first nego he went and fought a no hoper and floyd fought the best guy in the division which i think is even further proof of who ducked who.

    so now the mayweathers and gbp were talkin about a side meth? Really? i thought it was only roger who said that but know your telling me everyone was saying that. Really?

    i think you are the one with selective memory.
     
  7. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've read and seen some video that contradicts Manny so call agreement to the test. In the end it dosen't matter both fighters are the blame why this fight has not happen yet.
     
  8. Gotoneto

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    this thread should've ended right here.
     
  9. osreyes77

    osreyes77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How does telling arum and Pac to kiss his butt benefit Floyd? He's losing more money than Pac by not taking this fight. Pac is active while Floyd isnt. If he feels that he's punishing Pac and Arum by not taking the fight, he's highly mistaken. Pac and Arum are going to keep making money whether Floyd fights him or not.
     
  10. comanick

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    i never said it was a benifit to him, i just said thats how it is. Its called pride. Hey i have quit jobs because i didnt like the way i was being treated. Keeping the job would have been a benifit for me but i quit anyway and lost out on some money because my pride was worth more. i think its the same way for floyd in regards to dealing with arum. i think you can understand that and before you say "hey i wouldnt turn down 50mil" 50 mil is like 50k for the common man and in truth i could turn down 50k for my pride.
     
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    What pride though? The initial problem was a cutoff date for the extra testing that Floyd was requesting they take. They couldnt agree and the fight was off. The 2nd time around the Floyd camp claimed negotiations didnt even happen although Ross Greenberg went on the record to say it did and he acted as the mediator. Now its been reported by both sides that Floyd wants $100mil to fight Pac.

    When amongst all this was Floyds pride hurt? :huh
     
  12. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if floyd wanted the fight, we would have had the fight by now. simple as that.
     
  13. bollocks

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    They're two different things. Getting knocked out in boxing is part of the game and a perfectly acceptable outcome. Coming in overweight isn't!
     
  14. comanick

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    I will explain it since you dont see it. Arum and pac tried to f%^$ floyd the first time. They ducked the first nego and tried to push floyd into fighting mosley so that he could either lose or look bad. either 1 would have strengthend there position as far as getting more money and getting rid of the drug test. But it backfired. floyd whipped mosley and looked good doin it. That gave strenght to floyds position. After that floyd knew he was in the drivers seat and was not gonna acceCt anything less than what he wanted. That is the same thing arum would do if he was in the position to do so. So you take that and the numerous negative things that arum has said about floyd during the years and there you have it. Why would floyd bend over backwards for arum an co now that he has the ability to dictate and be in the right. When floyd didnt have the bargaining power he gave into everything and they walked which they shouldnt have done. they did try to screw floyd and thats why we dont have a fight. i dont think this fight will happen until arum gives floyd everything he wants. if you notice at no time has he done that. floyd was on national tv after the mosley fight and said blood test up to the fight or no fight. team pac never ever gave in to that. The more they bs around with floyd the more hes gonna ask for.

    now for the sake of the fight i want both teams to stop the bull and get it on but i understand floyds position.
     
  15. XavierHollywood

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    it really cant be made more simple then that. George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Shane Mosely ( I kno im forgetting many other well respected current or former boxers), the media, the world! Why can everyone see this is the case but not the *****s???

    if floyd wanted the fight, it woulda been done already. Plain and simple.