To say that the different views of the brothers are as simple as nationality, race, or even xenophobia, is over-simplifying the issue. While, yes, they generally receive more love from Europeans than Americans, the differences are more the result of culture, not geography. Perceptions and expectations are based on social norms and what an individual is exposed to early in life. Now, compare the social norms of America versus those of Europe. Sports: American football: new play every 35 seconds; "tackle" means collision, 40+ points per game. European football: more continuous ebb and flow; tackles are not very violent; maybe 2 goals per game average. Movies: American: screw the plot just blow a bunch of **** up or make low brow sex/fart jokes. Really fast paced, lowest common denominator stuff. European: plot heavy, character driven, often dry sense of humor that last longer than an hour and a half. For a kid who grew up in America, the Klits are boring as hell. However, if you grew up watching 45 minute halves of scoreless soccer, a Klit match looks fairly exciting. Hell, Calzaghe probably looks like a decent fighter.
atsch You do know Europe is not one country right? The social norms/culture is different in different European countries.
:yep:good Watching Soccer and the KLITS is akin to watching cement harden. Actually even Europeans find their own boxers boring, and is why standout European boxers like the KLITS, Strumm, and even Slappy White IMITATE AMERICAN BLACK fighters. Yes, tis true, and nothing to be ashamed of wanting to imitate the best! thumbsup
Yes I do. However, every major European country has a soccer league and that sport dominates the continent. So, to assume that most Europeans are exposed to soccer is not that big of a stretch.
Aye but Football/Soccer differs in every country in Europe in style and pace etc, even within the UK alone never mind Scandinavia to Spain etc Its a flawed comparison... you cant just compare Europe to the USA in that way... The Klits are very boring though.
Yes, some good observations here which make sense to me. I like playing chess and turn-based strategies so the Klitschkos boxing style appeals to me. Although I've seen enough fools here who sincerely believe that their subjective impressions are the only 'objective' reality. They will have their say in this thread.
i think its simpler then that, probably 80% of the Klitschko haters are english (either lewis or haye fans or both) and it seems really prominent on these boards cause the UK posters a most likely more then 50% of the active posters. its like a Klitschko vs Britian thing really. i watched a short segment on a british news station (sky?) about haye-klitschko and it was hilarious the **** they were saying, they didn't even try to hide there bias.
Thanks. I prefer to read books and follow baseball rather than watch reality TV or the NBA, so some of my friends find my tastes boring. It's a matter of perception and expectation. I'm sure some knuckleheads will disagree.
Football(soccer) is awesome, its like boxing you need to be patient but if you now the game well you can enjoy moves and type of players, combinations excitement. Players like messi,ronaldinho,zidane,henry,ronaldo they were/are all special and if you know football you can see the briliance. American football is more action packed, What you are saying is the same if some guy says: : "damn boxing sucks they only wait a bit sometimes not even a ko just useless boring rounds dragging on, now mma or kcikboxing is awesome its action packed war for a short period blood violence and everything not like boring boxing" Now we all know its not like that but people dont always see it that way, same with football, as a boxing fan yo should be able to understand why its awesome. I still think wlads boring but effective, while pac is exciting, thats not a European things, since there are many countries in Europe that are way different there is no need for generalization.
Watching American football is like watching your own feces drop on to the water. Do not insult another man´s religion :fire BTW Vitali´s fights are entertaining
As pointed out in the first reply Europe is not one country. They don't have one overarching "European culture". Whats funny here is that that "lowest common denominator stuff" is specifically made that way to appeal to foreign audiences. To make a movie that appeals equally to American, Japanese, Korean, German and Mexican teenagers, you need to simplify **** down to things they all understand equally. Anything dealing with, say, the subtle trials and hardships of everyday life in the American Midwest is going to be totally lost on someone from the other side of the planet. But there is one thing that everyone in the world can understand and sympathize with, no matter what their culture or ethnicity: The need to run away if you are being chased by giant robots. Likewise, foreign audiences also aren't as picky about good writing (a lot of it will be lost in the translation to subtitles anyway) or clever comedy (which is highly culturally specific). So if you're a studio executive who is choosing between financing a poignant coming of age film about an orphan ranch hand in East Texas or a film about a giant radioactive thunderstorm that gives people superpowers, chances are you're not going to go with the poignancy. Yes, i stole nearly every word of that but that's why American "blockbusters" make so much money, they're marketed to appeal to the entire globe, because they're thematically simple. This content is protected
Yeah Froch is a boring ******* to watch so was Naz, kessler, i could carry on but to say that their is one european culture is just stupid, furhtermore fighters from the same town have differing styles so i dont understand what your point is. Europe isnt one country and has many different cultures within the countries let alone across the continent. IN england alone there are areas where different sports have vastly different popularlities. Thanks for coming