Groves busts up Dirrell in sparring

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by daveyboy1609, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    4
    :lol: That was harsh..and wrong.

    Nevertheless he looked worse than the worse Andrade in that fight, in my defence. :D
     
  2. majypoo

    majypoo Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Messages:
    432
    Likes Received:
    159
    I was at the fight, one of the worst events I have ever been to. I think the last undercard fight was 2 hours before the fight started, I had a very good seat and was close to the action. For me Froch won the fight by a round, Dirrel could have won if he put more effort in but he ran the whole fight and did practically **** all. It's similar to the way people think Hopkins beat Calzaghe by landing a couple of punches a round, there no way Dirrel deserved to win that fight. My god I don't want to see a rematch I think I would cry...
     
  3. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    15,720
    Likes Received:
    5
    Yet you said that Ponce 'won'. Swings and roundabouts.

    Not officially he didn't. But I think most can call a...................errm, win a win and acknowledge that it was a deserved Dirrell victory, he just didn't get a W on his record.
     
  4. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Messages:
    11,823
    Likes Received:
    1
  5. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    4
    2 even rounds?! How was that fence Grant...
     
  6. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Messages:
    11,823
    Likes Received:
    1
    If I've scored them even, they were definitely Froch rounds.
     
  7. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2008
    Messages:
    44,755
    Likes Received:
    7
    One of 'em was probably the round where Dirrell got a point docked. He clearly won that round.
     
  8. cheekyvid

    cheekyvid Detroit, I shall return. Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2009
    Messages:
    7,324
    Likes Received:
    3
    I'm Scottish so don't know how you figure that one?

    The man who calls a spade a spade should be compelled to use one. It is the only thing he is fit for.

    Froch won the fight...but more importantly...he won the event. :deal

    Odds for the event were all in Dirrell's favour but Froch still triumphed.
     
  9. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    15,720
    Likes Received:
    5
    Sarcasm?


    Undeservedly so.
     
  10. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2006
    Messages:
    65,862
    Likes Received:
    16
    im posting this in the general!!!
     
  11. Funfan

    Funfan Guest

    Why Groves is human?
     
  12. Funfan

    Funfan Guest

    Groves is a boxer.
     
  13. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2010
    Messages:
    9,226
    Likes Received:
    9
    I'm not using myself as a standard, that's what you're not getting mate.

    When people, casual fans and the likes, look over fighters records, they see results, not performances. I'm not saying everybody does, but quite a few do. I mean, in 20 years time, if a fan who was relatively new to the sport looked over Juan Manuel Marquez's record, they wouldn't se him argualy besting and winning over 12 of 24 rounds against Pac, they would see him drawing and losing against Pac. Where I would historically rank Marquez on him taking the best fighter of his generation down to the wire and in the opinion of many beating him, others would simply see it as a loss and a draw, which would no doubt affect how he is ranked.

    I'm not saying that people won't base a fighter on performance, I am just saying that some, in fact most on this forum, will. Results are important, maybe Chavez - Whitaker was not a good barometer, but there are many examples. Oscar clearly beat Trinidad IMO, but when people look at his record, they see a loss to Trinidad, and therefore find it hard to higher his all time ranking because of this. Although it isn't the case all the time like you said, often a result can give an idea of the performance. Though obviously I would not use that to measure a fighter.

    It's SportsLeader mate. Surely you saw my name when you read my post? ;)

    Maybe, but when I say that Ponce 'beat' Broner, I mean that he bested Broner. Not officially beat him. But yeah, obviously you can't infer that from my posts. My bad.
     
  14. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    15,720
    Likes Received:
    5
    Which is obviously what I'm inferring, that Dirrell was the better fighter and thus deserved the victory. I know Froch ''officially'' won, it would be ****ing stupid of me to claim otherwise, which is why I didn't do it.
     
  15. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2010
    Messages:
    9,226
    Likes Received:
    9
    I just went into seek and destroy when I saw that you said Dirrell 'won'.

    How was I supposed to know what you mean? I'm not Brown Bomber (P.I.) you know :lol: