Blood testing or not, the main issue is (lack of) willingness to even negotiate

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by megavolt, Mar 23, 2011.


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  1. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    Divac you'll say anything to discredit Pac. You are one of the biggest Pac hatter on here. Just caused he beat every Mexican boxer they put in front of him. You even claimed on another post that Pac would outweight JMM by 10 lbs if they make the fight at 147. Pac..a guy that couldn't even come in heavier then 148 against Margo, where he could use the bulk. So yes anything Pac does will always be looked down on by you.
     
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  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You aren't the sharpest knife in the butcher's block. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. There was no negotiating the second time because the first negotiations were NOT done in good faith.

    You don't enter into negotiations with a man who has proven he will not negotiate in good faith AND had a pile of backup options that you don't. It is a recipe for disaster. Doubly so when you have the advantage, but not public opinion on your side. You issue ultimatums. If the guy wants to deal he will accept and get the deal done. If he doesn't?

    He will do exactly what Pac did... Fight a backup. Even in the 24/7 Pac was show to be lying about accepting all drug testing. Pac is a liar.
     
    bald_head_slick, Mar 24, 2011
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  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Too bad reality doesn't as Pac was RIGHT back to training after giving blood for the Clottey fight. 9 hard rounds of sparring.

    Reality always bites you *******s in the butt. :lol:
     
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  4. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Blood testing seems like it wasn't at all the main issue.

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  5. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Ross Greenburg and even DLH beg to differ.

    Fight a backup? Post Shane, even Floyd himself stated he doesn't have the urge.
     
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  6. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you missed my point. Don't you see any contradiction in there.

    Don't try to over think things. The contradictions from both camps will make you crazy if you do.
     
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  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void is afraid that Pac will knock his feathers off!
     
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  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I did'nt say Pacquiao would outweigh him by 10 lbs, only that having the fight take place at 147 lbs gives Pacquiao the option to bulk up into the 150's if he so choses.
    We already know Pacquiao can bulk up if he wishes, as Ariza wanted to bulk him up vs Margarito, but was overruled by Roach because they wanted Pacquiao to be as fast as possible vs Margarito.

    Dont just make a generalized statement to try to discredit me, bring that thread out lobk, and I'll gladly debate you on the merits of my points.

    I agree with Roach, it did'nt make sense to bulk Pacquiao up for Margarito because Pacquiao for as heavy as he could get, was not going to overpower Margarito.

    Pacquiao's advantage vs the much heavier Margarito was quickness and speed, and if you bulk him up, Pacquiao loses some of the speed he would need to be elusive vs Margarito.

    Pacquiao would never overpower Margarito, but if he bulked up as Ariza wanted to have him at vs Margarito, he could overpower Marquez who'd be moving up two weight divisions and still retain enough speed to still be faster than Marquez.

    You have a roided Pacquiao bulked up for Marquez, and all of a sudden the punches by Marquez that had Pacquiao leary of walking into in the previous two fights, Pacquiao would'nt so much as blink at them.

    I do feel that if a Marquez-Pac fight is made at 147 lbs, Pacquiao will come in the heaviest he's ever has, because coming heavy will benefit him vs a fighter two weight divisions below him.
     
    divac, Mar 25, 2011
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  9. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Show the proof that Pac is a drug addict? Void will finally have to prove his lies.
     
    Farmboxer, Mar 25, 2011
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  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its right here Farmy!

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZr6MZDBPZI&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

    As you say, "void will be void"
    .....but dont neglect the fact and not realize that roid will be roid!:deal
     
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  11. evilsherwin

    evilsherwin Well-Known Member Full Member

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  12. evilsherwin

    evilsherwin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What know :rofl:rofl Pac didnt roid up for margarito BUT will roid up for Marquez :patsch Pac didnt respect marquez's power back then to begin with :yep

    Heres one for the FMJ & JMM fans , looks like the first date kiss

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    evilsherwin, Mar 25, 2011
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  13. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    Brian Kenny is pretty blunt and direct when it comes to interviewing people. Floyd stumbled some too in his interview.
     
    megavolt, Mar 25, 2011
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  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    PED's are not just for bulking up.......the ******* just cant seem to grasp this fact.......


    ....and about Pac not respecting Marquez' power to begin with, why is Pacquiao being repeatedly driven for cover with his hand held between his head here.....

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISUWyt4gIuU&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

    ......and then here.......

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upv1Ijm2pIg&feature=player_embedded[/ame]


    Enjoy the highlights of Marquez two prior victories over Pacroid!:yep:deal
     
    divac, Mar 25, 2011
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  15. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh man Floyd's staring at JMM lips as if he wanna kiss him. Cripes! :lol:
     
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