Is this a CHECK HOOK??? Your input required!

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  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    If Wlad's wasn't a check hook... then neither was Mayweather's. It's that simple. You have already been shown what a textbook check hook is... which isn't what either of them did. However.. in reality both of them were variations of a check hook. Check your opponent as they come in aggressive.... hit them with your left hook... move and make them hit thin air. Simple as that.

    You act like it's a new and complicated move or something. It isn't uncommon... you just don't know it when you see it. You expect people to go running into turnbuckles everywhere.:lol:
     
  2. Boxing Fanatic

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    i know what a check hook is. I thought peter was delivering the hook. but, now that i took a better look, wlad threw one. :lol:
     
  3. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Why are you right? Just because you said so?

    Of course people was going to post the stuff you predicted - I could have told you that. But there are also people with very valid opinions who will comment - but you'll dismiss them as wrong for no other reason than they disagree with you. This implies that you believe you know more about boxing than every single person on the forum - which is ridiculous attitude to have.

    I started this thread out of intrigue. If it ends up unanimously in favour of it being a check hook then I'd be happy and seriously evaluate my interpretation of the punch and take on board things that have been said. You'll simply say "you're all idiots and I know more than every single one of you" - juat because you'd predicted a couple if people would quote wikipedia.
     
  4. Lunny

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    I don't know about the check hook, I can't see the gif properly.

    At 2.40 in this video Wlad does a lovely check grab though:
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  5. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Na
     
  6. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    :deal

    The goal is to get out of the way, whether it is by leaning back side stepping or turning on an angle.
     
  7. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    That's ridiculous - they are two completely different punches with completely different body shape, foot position and punching angle. Show me the similarities other than it being a left hook and neither fighter getting hit
     
  8. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    How come you only go for 14s?

    Cant you get anyone your own age?
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    You still don't understand.:patsch

    Neither Wlad nor Mayweather threw a textbook check hook. Howver, both of them achieved the same result by leaping away, rather than pivoting on their planted left hook, while swinging their right foot off to the side. Your left foot is NOT supposed to move during a textbook check hook. It is supposed to remain planted the entire time.

    So, how you going to sit there and say that Mayweather showed a perfect example of a textbook check hook... when he clearly didn't? I have never once said that Wlad's was textbook. I said that it is in fact a check hook. It's the same result. Just as Mayweather's was not textbook...but he got the same result. It's really simple, yet you are trying to make it more complicated than it is. Even the people agreeing with you... aren't even agreeing with you when they are bringing evidence to the table that shows Mayweather didn't even throw a textbook check hook.

    You could have saved a lot of time by being reasonable and listening to what I was saying from the start.
     
  10. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can our resident ESB check hook experts find us any other example than Mayweather on Hatton? Surely, if it is such a well documented technique that it has it's own Wikipedia entry, more than one has been thrown in the history of boxing?
     
  11. TheGOAT

    TheGOAT The Champ is Here ! banned

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    They shoulda asked Sammy "Who Nesh Sammy, Who Necks?" After that brutal beatdown.
     
  12. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    They
    Both
    Landed
    Their
    Left
    Hooks
    Against
    The
    aggresser
    coming
    in
    and
    both
    leaped
    away
    leaving
    their
    opponent
    to
    hit
    thin
    air


    neither
    used
    a
    textbook
    check
    hook
    However
    both
    used
    check
    hooks
    and
    got
    the
    desired
    result
     
  13. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Was Pacquaio's first knock down of Hatton also a check hook?
     
  14. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** me if Widdow Maker is indeed correct, which I doubt as he's a ****ing loonball then there are 300 check hooks per fight.
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I have to go coach a youth baseball practice. By all means... sit here and argue with yourself. Pretend not to understand very simple posts... and show your ignorance of the sport.:good