Is Sergio the next Great White hope even if hes latino??

Really?

I highly doubt the majority of people in the world would agree with you....

LOL @ listing the palest boxers you can think of....

 

:good Good post for example if any of you have watched the George Lopez show he does Dna testing on his celebrity guest to find out their ancestry... George Lopez is a dark ass Mexican but he is only 30% native like 2 or 3 % african and almost 70% Spanish.. WOuld you consider him white? No .... Jessica Alba imo looks more 'Latina" than white(she is half) yet her blood line was like 88% european and 12% Native.... Ive never done the DNA test but im sure i have more spanish ancestry(Im (probably more than Lopez) than native.. I think most mexicans have more spanish blood lines than Native but are not considered white.

 

JCC in his prime was white and badly need of a tan. Is he GWH too? Sergio is as much a GWH as Michael Jacksons ass. American white people hating on Ali when he was of Irish descent all that time those yee-haws didnt know his descandants came on the same potato ship they did. Sergio is white, but is not a GWH.

 

LOl Hoopsman I love to see white people with pride ******. If white people only rooted for white people I would love that but as I said you have no balls or spine. You only root for hispanics or asians because they rule the USA now.

 

Actually my dads side is Spanish,some American Indian, and Mexican... My grandmother is full spanish they are from New Mexico where alot of Spanish settled.. My Grandma was white complected like that guy^ but had latina features, my point is that alot of Spaniards are not pure white like say English,Germany and other euros.
Chavez has indio features but theres obvioudly spanish blood just look at his complexion..... Martinez ancestry might be from Spain but hes not Pau Gasol type of white guy Also i know quite a few dark or semi dark Latinos with Green eyes... Hell ive even met a few dark skin blacks with colored eyes does that make them white?

 

Yep, a blurry line once you get past the idea that someone is not 100% European like Martinez. I'm suprised Lopez isn't more native as he's pretty dark and has the features. Didn't know that about his show but it's interesting. Not a big fan of the guy though, don't understand how anyone thinks he's funny but that's here nor there.

I believe the US classifies any Spanish speaking country of Latin America, Portuguese, and Spain for classifying as Latino as far as racial categories go. They can mark themselves as white too, as you're basically allowed to determine your own race as for as government classification goes, I think. Jessica Alba is definitely white and Latina, though. It's most clear when you have a white parent and than a Mexican father. But suppose she didn't have a white mother and was her ancestry was 88% European and 12% native. If she's born in the US she's going to classify herself as Latina. That's what it comes down to at the end. I'm not sure genealogy and race are synonymous. Still... kind of reminds me of back in the day in America when you had just a tint of African blood in you you were deemed black. I think as far back as 30 or so years ago some states had it where if you were 1/8 black you were classified as black. Crazy ****...

As for a personal anecdote. I'm mainly Sicilian as for as heritage goes, but just look at Sicilian people. Obviously they're white, but depending upon what part of the island you're from your a mix of so many different nationalities. Some people are much darker because they're basically a mix of Roman/Italian and Arab. There's been influence from Africa to northern European countries, though. My brother, for example, has been confused as being Spanish and Puerto Rican many times before (In Puerto Rico too, nevertheless). But if you looked at some of my other relatives, they're much lighter complexion and of lighter hair color. It's a thin line at the end of the day. Ethnicity, genealogy, race, etc.

 

Of what importance is it anyways?

He's argentinian first and foremost, he's of spanish descent. I wouldn't like him more or less if he was Swedish. He's a classy boxer first and foremost, and that's what I see in him, not the color of his skin or his heritage.

 

And im assuming that you dont live around too many Latinos, or you would agree with me.. If you notice quite a few posters that live around Mexicans/Latinos agree that he looks latino.

 

None, the thread veered onto something else. It was a silly original question, anyway.

 

Agreed ive known quite a few sicilians and in Cali most of them are mistaken more frequently as latino than white.. Northern Italians definitely look white but ive never really looked at sicilians or half of the charachters in gangster movies as white guys

 

27 % Latinos were I live.....

Why would living with Latinos make me agree with you?

I know plenty of Mexicans... None of them are 5'11, green eyed, and that light skinned.....

You've even said people from Spain look Latino.... People from Spain are 100 percent white.....

So are you equating 100 percent white with Latino? :huh

You also equate white people to Froch and Pavlik.... Those are some pasty ass white boys... If you would travel to Europe, You would see that not everyone looks like that....

Perhaps because the majority of Americans are of English and German descent(these 2 countries have reallllly pale people) you equate pale with being white.

 

Well, the definition of latino or hispanic is so obscure and convoluted as to be of less value than national origin. People of latin background, italy, france, spain, portugal, were once branded latin. But now they are latinate whites I suppose, and "hispanic" is not a race but an ethnic distinction, one coming from, I think, a spanish language heritage, so that a Spaniard would be Hispanic and Latin but definitely not Tejano or Chicano or Mestizo, reserved for new world mixes. Let's not waste any more time with this. Or are Spaniards, who speak Spanish, not considered Hispanic? I guess we have to say who cares when some of the labels are specific and some are vague and nebulous. He's Argentinian.

I severely doubt Martinez would identify primarily as white if pressed, though.

 

The reason i made that statement is because i thought you would agree with me if you did.. Actually i know quite a few greeneyed latinos and some of them over 5-11 and couple colored eyed inmy family... Just curious what country or state do you live in?........ Well i live in Southern california and the whites here are probably more tanned then most other places Well i guess what ive been trying to say is that most latinos have Spanish blood therefore many Spaniard/Other Latinos look alike.. Spaniards might not be Latinos but they certainly are Hispanics.

 

It's a thin line. In other words, a meaningless social construction. Like another poster said, there was a time when Italians and the Irish weren't considered white. Only German-English WASPs were considered white, at one time.

By the way, all this Spain is white and Europe while true doesn't exclude from the fact that Spanish people moving to America can be identified as Latino. At least according to the US census. In an American community survey 63% of Latino's marked their race as white. While 29% marked themselves as some other race (Mezitzo, mullato, etc). I guess it comes down to what you consider yourself because how much mixed makes someone fall more in one category or the other.

 

Thing is, Argentina is very different from Mexico and indeed many latin American countries.
It has no native population to speak of and didnt import african slaves. The people there are straight up white,and not just Spanish origin.
Argentina has a huge number of people decended from Germany and Ireland. As in straight up white,white people!

Buenos Aires for example has one of the bIgest Jewish communities in the world.
Huge numbers of europeans fled there during WW2.

It doesn really have the mixed mestizo type community that other Latin American countries have.

Its basically made up of straight up European decent people,many of whom are from Northern Europe. i.e. pasty white!