The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    floyd is willing to have cut-off before. what happened when pac agreed to it?
    all i know is that pac is personally for it and koncz has negotiated for a 7 days cut-off which ellerbe and floyd denied since they say there was no negotiations but was proved as lie by greenburg.

    floyd will just continue to move the bar whenever pac bends so how can pac make the fight if the other side keeps moving the goal post?
     
  2. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ironic how you are desperately hanging on to old issues whereas Floyd just put you all Floyd supporter into a much challenging situation to defend.
     
  3. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Funny because I had an epiphany yesterday that the guy likely feels disrespected and unappreciated which seeps into the negotiation process, which is really just a carousel of ego's; from the promoters to the fighters themselves. The way people have seemed to be eager to hand the torch over to Pacquiao after a few fights(though I'm not saying his career under 147 was suspect). He beats guys(some who Floyd beat at their best, or at least coming off rejuvenating fights) at catch weights/coming off tough losses, but suddenly this qualifies him to take the throne of #1, though he hasn't actually beaten the #1(Floyd; who has been consistent his whole career). Suddenly, the onus is on Floyd to prove his status(over a guy who he feels rode his coattails to fame) as opposed to it being on Pacquiao to face him and earn it. He doesn't feel like he should have to call out Pacquiao because he''s still #1... in P4P and in PPV. More popularity is given to the concept that 'Floyd is scared', than 'Pacquiao for some reason refuses to take random testing for banned substances'. Not to mention the fanfare with which Pacquiao is met. He's treated like a king by the American boxing media while Floyd is vilified.

    Much of this is Floyd's doing however. I really feel like he created Pacquiao in some ways from not handling boxing business when he had the opportunity to(ie: fighting Cotto at the peak of his career), to the way he handles himself publicly, to his inactivity. The ego of the guy who feels like he's still the man in boxing(Floyd), and the ego of the guy who seems to feel like he doesn't need Floyd because he's already been handed the keys(Pacquiao) need to come to terms. I really don't think the blood testing issue is just about steroid suspicion... at this point, its probably 50% ego.

    I also absolutely don't buy into the 'Floyd is scared' BS, or that Pacquiao is scared for that matter. It truly seems that Floyd feels that Pacquiao is easy work, and Pacquiao feels the same way(based on their feedback on one another throughout the years).
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    well his hardcore fans would just ignore this never mind that even floyd himself don't care for them. he is also saying some BS thing about america should be supporting him and not pacquiao coz america is a clean country.
     
  5. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    PBF has always faught for himself, as he should, I don't think most who appreciate his skills gives a **** who he "fights for".
     
  6. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course there was a reason. I don't think Pacquiao is on steroids personally but you can see why people would think it.
     
  7. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i asked you a simple question :lol:

    YES OR NO?
     
  8. Relentless

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    white ppol dont know shiid about baxin.
     
  9. arsabs

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  11. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What floyd was talking about is having the american people behind him in his position in regards to his drug testing demand. Hence why he mentioned america is a clean country.

    Floyd feels pac is getting a free pass not agreeing to take the test, while he is being made to be the villain. Now whether you agree to this or not is irrelevant as this is how mayweather feels about the situation and the conduct of the media towards him.

    However he is staying true to his belief and will only fight pac if he agrees to full random testing.

    Now to get back on point once again. Has pac agreed or not? If he has then he needs to make it clear so the whole of america can know. The fact that he hasn't made it clear to established media outlet in america suggests otherwise. I guess his next chance is in the post fight interview with mosley.
     
  12. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Give over!
     
  13. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yes i agree, he could put al this to bed once and for all by just saying that.

    Then the ball will be firmly in mayweathers court and once and for all either the fight will happen or we will know for definate who the ducker is.

    Until Pac does this, and theres NO reasonable excuse why he shouldnt, then the fight will never happen.
     
  14. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why when a pac fans get's butt hurt they always resort to posting pictures.:patsch
     
  15. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    That's how I feel too. **** it.

    I LOVE to watch both these dudes, equally for their own reasons. But this **** sucks!! Very hard to understand why somebody, especially after being called out on the ****, won't just take the ****in' test?!

    Using any reason at all, there's only one reason a guy wouldn't take a simple ****in' test to put an end to ALL of this bull ****.:yep :yepMy opinion.

    Let's get it on dudes
     
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