The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

I'm just thinking why say this **** when pac is signed to fight another guy in months time?

 

I hear ya'. that's cool.:good

I been thinkin' why not?:yep

 

Floyd is consistently asking for Pac to take a test w/o some predetermined cutoff. We have not heard Floyd, himself, say anything to the contrary, as it pertains to THIS fight, since Feb. 2010. Pac is consistently refusing, and instead consistently fighting WW's that either Floyd has already embarrassed or that somebody else has. When he performs a new trick, I will retract that statement.

Pac has been pretty consistent in avoiding a testing scenario that will not allow HIM to dictate the cutoff.

It doesn't take over a year (and 3 fights against guys bigger than Floyd for much less money) to decide whether you are willing to take a random test, and fight a smaller man (than his last 2 opponents and his next) and make the payday of all paydays. Which begs the question, who is really ducking whom? :think

Perhaps, this will help shed some light on that...

I don't doubt some of this thinking is still prevalent in the Pacquiao camp.

Most claim Floyd's testing request is an excuse not to fight. Yet, the refusal to accept that testing request and the pursuit of the lawsuit gives Manny the perfect excuse, as well.

 

That a good post Punisher. And you said there what I couldn't put my finger on for why the 7 day 14 day **** was bothering me.....It's because that gives a PREDETERMINED cut off date.

 

Then while the argument is a decent one in "what drug can be taken in 7 (or 14) days that won't be still there in a post fight test?", modern medicine is some crazy ****. We got 90 yr olds havin' sex now, among all the other **** they can do, I don't believe that they couldn't figure out ways to beat tests.

According to experts, OSDT is the best barely feasible way to do it.

 

Fixed it for you. If you are going to quote experts you may also want to bring up the fact that 14, 7 or 0 day cut off will get you the same results.

If you understand PEDs, you have to cycle with it multiple times to get any decent effect out of it. That is why YEARLY OSDT is what is recommended.

 

:think Interesting...no doubt.

I didn't quote anybody...did I?

I alluded to "experts"....you know an extremely vague way of describing those I best understand to be the good folks in charge of this ****.

You talk there as though you are one of these "experts" yourself, buddy.

If so, which side of the fence are you on? The side that does everything they can to detect all substances...listed or not? Or the other side that works round the clock to come up with the newest and latest way to beat tests that are currently in place?

Are you saying that the ONLY way to check for unlisted/listed banned substances is to do these test ALL year? Or are you saying once a year? Seemed like you meant all year long....

 

$100M demand.

 

Look at these bum *******s. Still they are talking about Pac caring about honor. They DKSAB. A Boxer slobbers, snots, and pukes in a gym. His trainer will reach down his shorts to fix his junk if necessary. There is no fake BS assumptions of "honor" to a fighter. He knows the only place honor and the prize is won is in that ring. Everything else is just fluff to get into that ring. What does that have to do with this?

Pacfraud is a Prize fighter. If he was clean and WANTED to fight he would take that test and knock FMJ the fidduck out. If *******s weren't knee deep in Pacanus, as Boxing fans, they would want Pac to take those tests because they believed their hero was clean AND had the skill to win the fight. So that just shows that:

1. Pac is afraid to fight without whatever drugs he is using.
2. Pac is afraid to fight Mayweather period and only uses the testing to leverage not fighting.

These are the only conclusions to draw. If Pac doesn't want to drug test all he has to do is go out in public and say, "I won't drug test so there is no chance of this fight happening." All of this nonsense is OVER because he has told the TRUTH.

Pacfraud is a snake liar so he keeps slithering in the weeds. The pathetic *******s keep eating whatever "excuse-of-the-week" team Pac drops like dung beetles following an elephant.

 

If you the argument is,"Is 14 or 7 day sufficient to test for PEDs during boxing training?" Then I would say yes (aka Pac side) on that one. I would even go further and say URINE testing with a 7 day cut off is sufficient.

If they are going to test Pac or any boxer only during pre competition training, then you are not really going to stop any boxer from taking PEDs because you can cycle through a lot of this PEDs during "off season" training and still get the advantageous results you will get if you where on PEDs in the 8 weeks before the fight.

Other sports like track, cycling, swimming, weight lifting etc are able to do the all year random testing because they have various competitions all year long. The governing body have access to the athletes for a larger time period than boxing commissions would since fighters usually only fight about 1-3 a year.

I would even say that diuretics are probably WAY more common than PEDs like EPO and HGH during the 8 week training period. Hell, it does not even make sense to take HGH during that training time for boxers. It adds new undeveloped muscles, which is also extra weight. It is like weight lifting which is a cardinal sin in boxing. Not to mention HGH I think increases water retention. Again, a no-no in boxing.

EPO makes sense but EPO is an endurance assisting hormone. You need to cycle through it several times to get any meaningful results.

 

Source it clown. Source it.

 

Why do you *******s keep pouring syrup on this turd hoping it turns to pancakes? It is still a turd.

If Pac WANTS the fight, he agrees to testing. If Pac DOESN'T WANT the fight he will NOT agree to testing. Period. So we can only draw two conclusions:

1. Pac is afraid of OSDT.
2. Pac is afraid of Mayweather so won't agree to OSDT so that he never has to face him.

If you are a Boxing fan you would be asking Pac to draw a clear line in the sand. Pac, why won't you test?

 

A very good read. :yep

Do you believe that there could be any substances out there that you haven't listed there, or may not yet know about?

 

I wish Pacquiao would just say "I will take whatever ****ing test you want, now sign the contract"

This showmanship bull**** is getting too ****ing old.

 

For those people saying that full random blood testing all the way up to the fight is needed and that a 7 day cutoff is BS, read this:

http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-national/urine-tkos-blood-nevada-boxing-drug-testing-debate

Not only did Travis Tygart fail to convince doctors that blood testing is necessary, he said it himself at the end of the interview that the current HGH testing they do is insufficient and that "in the next few months", a reliable blood test will be available that can nab HGH users 14 TO 21 days after usage. And this interview happened June of last year! A 7 day cutoff is more than enough!

Now for those saying Pac should also be tested for EPO, urine testing is the test that actually detects unnatural EPO. Blood testing is just done as a screening to determine if an athlete needs to be urine tested for it.