Darcy versus SRR

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  1. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just to be clear, Les Darcy was considered the main attraction over Harry Greb when they appeared side by side.

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...EAAAAIBAJ&pg=5368,1074249&dq=darcy+greb&hl=en

    Given that Greb is now regularly considered P4P no 1 on this site nowadays, does this mean that those Americans who lived the greb Darcy era probably considered Darcy as the better fighter and therefore the greatest of all time?
     
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    Maybe the novelty factor of Darcy's presence could have accounted for him being considered the attraction? Just a thought :think

    Darcy over Greb :patsch Sands over SRR in another thread :patsch
     
  4. TheGreatA

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    I think Darcy vs Sands is a better question. Darcy looks a strong, physical fighter but Robinson could deal with the type even though he'd have his problems. Just too big of an advantage in height and reach for Robinson, not to mention speed, to give it away.
     
  5. TheGreatA

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    Greb was seen as a great by the 20's. Darcy I think was largely forgotten except by Australians. No offense to the man but he did not leave a lasting legacy like Greb's.
     
  6. Boilermaker

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    That is a big call actually, regarding legacy.

    Darcy has created a legend that will be still around in 1000 years. In fact, it may even outlive the sport of boxing the way things are going at the moment.

    Greb, great as he was, is a relatively obscure name nowadays, outside of die hard boxing fans.

    Darcy's legend is definitely the bigger and will last the longer.
     
  7. TheGreatA

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    A legend in Australia perhaps.
     
  8. Boilermaker

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    Is there anywhere else that matters?
     
  9. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Les Darcy is a hero to kangaroos, wombats, and abadigitals. Not real people.
     
  10. klompton

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    They never appeared side by side. How do you get this from the article above? As someone else stated Darcy was the curiousity and the tour he was on when this article was written turned out to be a pretty demoralizing failure. All this article states is that Greb was willing to square off against him. On the same page can be found an article whereby Jeff Smith offers to fight Darcy for nothing. Something Bobby Sinn cant seem to wrap his mind around.
     
  11. Boilermaker

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    Typical american writers. They say Harry Greb will meet Darcy in the Theatre when clearly he wont :think I should have known Greb would be running from cover from the great les Darcy:bbb
     
  12. klompton

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    Actually it was Darcy who chose not to meet Greb, which prompted Red Mason to call out Darcy publicly in the papers. Darcy continued to refuse to face Greb stating he would prefer to meet him in private which got him laughed at by Mason and the local sportswriters. Before you take one snippet of information completely out of context you should really explore a lot more so you get a clear idea of the context.
     
  13. Boilermaker

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    okay, so you admit that Greb was going nowhere near Darcy in a private fight.

    So why should the higher profiled Darcy risk his top status by fighting Greb, who as stated in the previous article was considered young and dangerous but largely unskilled. If he is considered an underdog to mike Gibbons, he has hardly earned a shot at Australia's best fighter, has he?
     
  14. klompton

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    I think a better question is why Darcy was turning down offers to fight anyone even remotely threatening, including people he had already "beaten" instead landing on a fight with Len Rowlands of all people.

    The offer to fight in private was seen for what it was by everyone. A means of trying to save face by trying to look like a tough guy when in fact you are turning down a fight. Like I said, his "offer" was given no credence and was literally laughed at by the press. At this point the shine was already starting to wear off of Darcy and after one stop on his little exhibition tour he was literally followed around by street urchins calling him "bum", "yellow", and "Coward". Gibbons, Dillon, and even Greb were at the same time being followed around the street by children who idolized them and wanted to bask in their shadow. Darcy's legend may be formidible down under but that doesnt quite extend as powerfully beyond your borders.
     
  15. Bugger

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    I'd say it's fairly obvious it was because he'd just travelled by ship across the world and found himself in a strange country with strange people with strange traditions, strange hats and strange diets...