Great Boxing Trilogies - Aussie ones!!

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  1. COULDHAVEBEEN

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  2. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    That Perez fought Kunde 7 times raises an interesting question as to which two Aussies fought each other the most amount of times?

    In recent times we've seen 'Big' Bob Mirovic and Col Wilson face off against each other 5 times.

    Paul Ferreri and the late Brian Roberts can match Perez (Hawaiian born) and Kunde with 7 meetings.


    Can you think of any pair of Aussies that can top 7 meetings?
     
  3. Bobby Sinn

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    Richards vs Henneberry... 10 brutal encounters. LEGEND stuff.
     
  4. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    Good get sinful one, and that's sure a lot of bloody brutality!

    Is that the most match-ups for a pair of Aussies do you think?
     
  5. Bobby Sinn

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    I think so mate.. for Stadium fights anyway... although Young Griffo vs Chitty Ryan might be on the mark. Not sure of actual contests between the two.

    The non stop match ups between fighters through to the 1930's, as they toured Kalgoorlie, Broken Hill, Fremantle and other fight towns would have me believe that some met over a dozen times... or more.
     
  6. Bugger

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    :lol::rofl

    only just saw this mate, great minds........
     
  7. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    How's your memory Bugger?

    Do you reckon Richards vs Henneberry at 10 would be the most meetings between an Aussie pair (at least a traceable record anyway).
     
  8. Bobby Sinn

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    The actual recorded number for Griffo and Chitty is 23!!

    Incredible.

    P.S No available shots of 'the Iron Pot'... although it held 500+ when packed.. standing room only.

    The photo of Foley's Hotel is due to the 'Sudan Regiment' passing by...

    ... no doubt enroute to slap around some long legged Sudanese gals, before burning down the local villages.. lol.
     
  9. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    23!

    Fark!
     
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    It'd be hard to beat.

    Tommy Uren fighting Jimmy Clabby 6 times aint too bad for a good quality matchup WLWWWD. He also fought Harry Stone 8 times.
     
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    :lol::good

    Thx mate. 500+ is a hell of a place.
     
  12. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    These are the types of rivalries that could potentially get people interested again in Oz boxing.

    It's a two step process:

    1/ Generate some media coverage for the fighters so people know who they are, and work out which one they want to align with.

    2/ Fuel the rivalry so that people want to go and watch the bouts.

    Mirovic vs Wilson is a modern day version of this sort of thing. But these rivalries need to be brought to the attention of the boxing public who don't attend fights - so that they do start attending fights.
     
  13. Bugger

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    Chiddy Ryan comments on Griffo and Darcy....







    ON WITH THE GLOVES.
    BOXING MEMORIES OF 50
    YEARS.


    GR1FFO AND DARCY.
    (BY S. J. (Chiddy) Ryan.)
    It has always been agreed that Griffo and Les. Darcy were the two greatest boxers Australia produced. Followers of the sport here did not have the opportunity of seeing either boxer continue until the end of his career, and it was a coincidence that both men died in the United States.
    Larry Foley, the greatest of all boxing instructors, taught Griffo the finer points of rlngcraft. When Foley had given Griffo and myself our lessons, he would order us to put on the gloves and box while he stood outside the ring and watched us, to learn if we had followed his instructions.
    Griffo was, not born on the Rocks at Millar's Point, but he spent his youth there. Those were the days of the larrikin pushes, but Griffo was never associated with them. There are people alive today who remember Griffo and can verify this statement. He was reared by a family named Allner in Cumberland St, and as a boy sold newspapers in that locality. He was not a knuckle-fighter, and did not engage in street brawls. Griffo had a brilliant ring career before leaving for America, and his last contest in Sydney was with Jerry Marshall, a coloured South African.


    A HUNT FOR GRIFFO.


    This match was marked by unusual incidents. The Darlinghurst Hall was crowded and many who had paid for seats were unable to reach them. As a preliminary to the main event, I boxed a four rounds exhibition with Mick Ives. When our display had finished, Larry Foley, who was the manager of the hall, informed me that Griffo had not arrived. Foley asked me if I knew where Griffo could be located, I called a cab and instructed the driver to convey me to a hotel at the corner of William and Yurong streets, Woolloomooloo, where I thought I might find the boxer. Apparently Griffo had forgotten his engagement. When I entered the hotel parlour, he was in the company of a number of youths singing around a piano.
    I told Griffo that the crowd awaited him at the Darlinghurst Hall. He agreed to accompany me, and when we entered the building, Griffo received a wonderful reception. Many of the spectators were compelled to sit on the floor and others climbed to the rafters. The ring was erected in the centre, raised about four feet from the floor. Steve O'Donnell was the referee. Griffo commenced with skill and speed, and Marshall showed anxiety. After a few rounds, blood streamed from Marshall's nose and mouth, and he began to use rough tactics. He held Griffo in every round and the spectators loudly shouted their disapproval. The crowd rushed the ring and the referee declared a draw. Griffo left soon after for America and never returned.


    GREATER THAN OLD-TIMERS.


    The brilliancy of Darcy in his Australian encounters showed that but for the World War, which was indirectly responsible for bringing his career to a close, he would have gone further with his ring successes than any past heavy or middle weight. Darcy, in my opinion, was greater than Bob Fitzslmmons, Peter Jackson, and Jim Hall, the men who made Australia famous in the early days of boxing.
    I trained six of Darcy's opponents, and he beat them all. These were Jeff Smith, Buck Crouse, Frank Loughrey, Alex Costica, Harold Hardwick, and Knockout Brown. Darcy also proved superior against other famous Ameri- cans-Fritz Holland, Eddie McGoorty, Jimmy Clabby, and George Chip. These and many other opponents were conquered before he reached his 21st birthday. He was a natural fighter, and his ring education was complete when Dave Smith gave him the finer points of boxing.


    One boxer, Buck Crouse, imposed upon the good nature for which Darcy was famous. Crouse asked Darcy to take him along in the second round, and the Australian treated him leniently until the fifth round, when Crouse landed a terrific right hand cross counter upon Darcy's jaw. It was one of the heaviest punches I have seen delivered. Darcy stood upright for a few seconds, then, having recovered, knocked out Crouse in less than a
    minute.


    Rushcutter Bay Stadium in the years immediately preceding the war was a financial magnet for oversea boxers. The American Jimmy Clabby proved the most difficult of all Darcy's foreign opponents, but Darcy outpointed him twice. Darcy also met Jeff Smith twice.
     
  14. Bugger

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    I wholey agree with you mate but also for such a formula to work both fighters need to be matched fairly and equally, be happy to risk a loss or two, to gain experience and provide a hard fought entertaining bout. If enough exposure is gained, more people will relise that a hard fought loss is much more respectable than a one-sided drubbing and natually come back for more if future bouts are organised. Hopefully people generally will begin to understand that a loss is not always a tarnish on someones record.
     
  15. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    People are far too concerned with maintaining the zero in their losses column these days unfortunately.

    Will have a read through your post above next.