Blood testing or not, the main issue is (lack of) willingness to even negotiate

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZr6MZDBPZI&feature=player_embedded[/ame]


    Hlllllleeeeaaavvyyy training!:lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  2. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe its because they're not better skilled than Pac as what you say. Margarito has been criticized to be easy job for Pac by most *****s, but i agree with you, Margo is still a threat to anybody in that division and would probably stop everyone bordering below elite.
     
  3. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well actually if he does have to, if...1) he actually wants the mayweather fight. :lol:

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    2) He wants to show that he isnt a drug cheat

    So until he does these things we are entitled to presume and assume that he doesnt want the fight and that he may be a cheat:hi:
     
  4. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    :patsch

    look up what the word negotiation means then we'll talk.
     
  5. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well come on then ******* boy. Give us ONE decent reasonable excuse why manny pacquiao simply and point black will NOT agree to do OSDT when somebody like Shane Mosley with a proven history of steroid abuse WILL agree to it?

    In fact ANY other fighter is willing to agree to these tests EXCEPT Manny Pacquiao. Tell me why that is *******?

    Because you cant.:hi:
     
  6. evilsherwin

    evilsherwin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Give me a reasonable excuse why I would believe a crackhead woman beating family that pacs juicing

    You or any floyd defenders still havent given a reasonable excuse why 7 days + after fight is not good enough, What drug gives that much advantage in 7 days

    ITs called negotioations, Pac aint throwing up Road blocks, the mayflowers are

    the boxing public dont take what the mayflowers say seriously (including floyd fans), not even american main stream media :hi:

    You know why? have a look at the thread from yesterday called : Floyd Jr. on Pacquiao: "It's Crazy How He Can Come to Our Country and Get Praised."
    "http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299319"

    Why would anyone side with a guy that stupid? lol
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its really not about siding with one side or the other........

    If it were a prime DLH asking for what Mayweather is asking for, thats OK then because DLH pretends to be a standup guy?????:think

    If DLH asks for PED tests its OK because he's the Golden boy........

    ......but if its Mayweather, thats not OK because Roger and Mayweather Sr. are crackheads??????


    Its not about character here, its about what is right and wrong.

    Is PED testing in the richest fight in boxing history a right thing to do or just irrelevant to anything to do with boxing?
    .......my common sense tells me that whether a standup guy or a crackhead suggests it, its the latter.
     
  8. evilsherwin

    evilsherwin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In the real world people judge you for your criminal past. If you Beat your wife, threaten your kids and your family stutter like crack addicsts (bcoz they are on crack)

    Not too many ppl will take your word for it. Even your own country , as proof of what mayweather said himself. The countries not crazy. just him and you and the rest of the floyd defenders

     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Am I reading you right, you are saying that if DLH would have made the same request, it would have been a reasonable one?
     
  10. Schmapps

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    Testing til 7 days out, unlimited urine, and testing immediately post fight is plenty to ensure a clean fight Divac.

    If it truly is about "doing what's right" and not about ego or ducking, why then, is this not acceptable to floyd (or you, for that matter?)

    The fight would be clean and that's what matters here isn't it?
     
  11. Anima

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    OSDT? Bull****, Floyd and his ped experts can't even determine what substance are they trying to look for, Let alone lay evidence that such things exist. Why bend over for something that is completely unnecessary.

    Again, if they "miracle substances/A-side meff" really exists then its pretty easy to provide evidence that they exist.

    After that then well start to talk about the tests.
     
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not according to some experts like Victor Conte who has said he could drive a Mack truck through a 5 day window of nontesting.


    I think there's a slim chance that the lab people would come to draw blood from Pacquiao on the last week of preparation anyways, but just Pacquiao knowing that its a possibility would be enough to deter him from cheating if in fact that was what he was doing.
     
  13. divac

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    WTF.......a lab testers drug test should not be valid unless he say's in advance exactly the PED they're going to test for???:patsch

    Typical *******ism mindset!:-(
     
  14. crimson

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    Two things...

    1. If ODLH asks for it, during that time he can force you since he has leverage. Just like Pac can force fighters fight on his term or Ward can do it for his fights.

    2. Yes Conte is right, in 5 days you can cycle and not get caught. But drugs like EPO and such must be cycled several times to have any benefit.
    If you want to take 'turbo booster' (like the dog hormone that some one posted in another thread) type drugs/hormone so you have an advantage during fight night, please remember that Pac agreed blood/urine testing immediately after the fight.


    At this point I honestly believe neither Pac camp or Arum wants to give PBF any edge. Again, if you believe Pac is drugging it up, giving up to 7 day does not make sense as you gain nothing in those 7 days, especially if you are testing immediately after the fight.
     
  15. Anima

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    God damn you are stupid.

    Then what are you gonna look for when you test pac? Certainly the commission themselves and even the USADA are looking for the SAME compounds or substances that are above in value or that's got no business being in a boxers body. They all know the substances, but guys like you keeps on insisting that there are magical substances that miraculously disappear in hours.

    Doping commissions have already stated the dangers of testing too closely to the fight. They said it themselves, plus they didn't mention if you could get away with doping in that time frame with unlimited urine samples and other tests unrelated to blood and another blood test immediately after the fight.

    The commission and the doping commission themselves doesn't even know what "miracles substances" that you and the whole floyd bandwagon crew is bring out.

    The commission and the doping commission ain't stupid. They will do what is necessary to make sure the figthers are clean. Floyd's doping commission stopped 18 days before the fight, and they gave reasons to why it stopped there. So why does 14 and 7 days aren't good enough? Under what grounds? At least the commission gave thier reasons/evidences but why can't the accussers themselves lay evidences? It's because It's all imaginary. They cannot back it up with facts.

    Why do you think the defamation suit pushed through?
    Why do you think the 100m$ dollars came up?
    Why do you think he's got no urge now?

    Its all clear son, stop being blind. This is far beyond the testing issue