Who is the WORST challenger for a world title in HISTORY?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Mar 27, 2011.


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  1. horst

    horst Guest



    :lol:

    In fact, I think 8 or 9 was a bit ambitious now, probably you are around 4 or 5 I'm guessing?


    - Your point on a "boxrec warrior" was proven to be bull****, because a "boxrec warrior" uses stats to pretend he has seen fights, which it has been proven I never attempted to do :deal

    - My point on Thornberry is that his recent comp was nowhere near the level required to merit a world title shot. This can adequately be proved with reference to boxrec, because irrespective if you or I have seen Joseph Polu fight, no matter how good he is, you shouldn't be getting world title shots on the basis of beating guys with 1 or 2 fights, or guys who have lost their last 6 fights in a row :deal

    You see? These points cannot be argued with. I referred to boxrec because it provides the records of these guys, and my point was only to do with their records, nothing else. :deal



    - And pretending you've seen Richard Frazier fight pre-Jones does you no credit, you lame, lame liar. :patsch


    Sorry man, you failed. :smoke



    Oh, and yet more hypocrisy exposed:


    I only looked into Rick Thornberry's record recently.

    But you looked into it and knew the details that I quoted (the records of his recent opponents) back at the time?

    How did you do that?

    Your Big Book Of Rick Thornberry?

    :oops::oops::oops:
     
    horst, Mar 29, 2011
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  2. horst

    horst Guest

    Couldn't agree more.

    B-Hop, Toney, Jones AND Calzaghe ALL had some shocking challengers.

    I don't think anybody would argue against that.
     
    horst, Mar 29, 2011
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  3. horst

    horst Guest

    :patsch Yet another calamitous fail by this guy.

    Thornberry's last minor WBO title fight was almost TWO YEARS before he fought Joe C.

    So you think defending the hallowed WBO Asia Pacific title then breaking off and fighting utter, utter, disgraceful bums for TWO YEARS is enough to merit a major world title shot?!

    You think the WBO Asia Pacific title is enough to maintain a number 1 contendership while doing NOTHING of any value for TWO YEARS?!!!!


    **** sake. Your failures are getting more substantial the more desperate you get.

    Appalling     point. :nut
     
    horst, Mar 29, 2011
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  4. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    :admin ****n nasty record there. thats ****n wbo for u.


    manny melchor (25 wins vs 19 losses) got a shot at finito lopez in 1993.
     
    Raskolnikov, Mar 29, 2011
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  5. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

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    yes. great. you really are "schooling" me with these hilarious age related jokes. :nut

    we obviously have a different definition of boxrec warrior. yours allows you to keep on being one without any guilt. good for you. :thumbsup




    he got a title shot through being a number 1 contender for a title. he became number 1 contender for a title by winning a marginal wbo belt. he kept his ranking through careful match-making.

    was he a great challenger? no. but he was a much less deserving challenger when he faced ottke...who hand-picked him after a period of inactivity.




    "reffered to boxrec"? :lol:

    everything you know about these fighters is from boxrec you ******. :lol:

    well...you'd know me better than i do mystic popkins.

    rest assured i knew all about richard frazier long before i was on this thread...it's not like i stumbled across his record on boxrec then decided to make a thread about it...is it? in fact...when i saw your bull**** post; his was the first name that sprang to mind. no research neccessary. :deal


    :lol:
    dealt with.

    here:

    thanks for pointing that out...cos i didn't notice you ducked the point i have bolded for you.

    please answer this question. :D
     
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  6. philby

    philby Active Member Full Member

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    Ummm..........okay..:roll:
     
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  7. horst

    horst Guest



    :D You don't make any sense, junior.

    On one hand, it's fine to use boxrec.

    On the other hand, it's not fine to use boxrec only for getting the stats on fighters' records.

    Therefore, what is it fine to use boxrec for, if it's not fine to use it to get the stats from fighters' records??? (even though you've already done so for a fighter called Richard Frazier: :oops:)

    :huh

    Keep trying. :smoke
     
    horst, Mar 29, 2011
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  8. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

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    that was what happened. he got a ranking...he maintained it by cherrypicking...while the guys around him lost & lost ranking positions. it's actually fairly common...it is for example; the rationale behind herbie hide pulling out of prizefighter...because a loss on cuts in the next fight would have effected his ranking...altho that didn't work out to well for him. oh well.

    i don't like it...playing the system is bull****...but it's what happened.

    not that you'd know. you've only been following the sport for a couple of minutes & get all of your info off boxrec. :deal
     
    ploys, Mar 29, 2011
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  9. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

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    right here ******:

    Originally Posted by ploys
    This content is protected

    didn't say you can't use it...as you say it is a useful resource...i have been on there a few times to check stuff that i'm unsure of (& i'd like you to show me where i said you can NEVER use it). altho i didn't actually get that particular record off boxrec anyway. nice try. :good

    but using boxrec as the basis for your arguments about boxers you've never seen & didn't know anything about until "recently" (probably a couple of days ago...or even a hour or so before you posted this thread) is a boxrec warrior. :deal
     
    ploys, Mar 29, 2011
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  10. horst

    horst Guest

    Fail. I have made far deeper, better boxing threads in my time than you EVER will. You have no idea who you're talking to. :smoke

    And you think that defending a non-entity of a trinket is enough to merit a major world title shot TWO YEARS later...

    You have no standards. I do. Therein lies the difference. :good
     
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  11. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know where he fits in the worst ever who challeged but surely one of them - Jesse "the Boogeyman" Fergunson with his shouting "Bowe must go" in Washington, DC 1993 and then almost out in the end of the 1st and stopped in the 2nd. Actually Michael Dokes looked very bad too against Bowe.
     
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  12. horst

    horst Guest

    :D Right here ****stick:

    - Using boxrec to find stats from obscure fighters IS what boxrec should be used for

    - A boxrec warrior is someone who uses the resource to pretend they have seen fights that they haven't seen


    I ask again, if using boxrec to find the stats on the records of obscure fighters is the deplorable behaviour of a 'boxrec warrior', then what is the resource to be used for???

    You have avoided this question numerous times now. It's time to admit you are a moron who doesn't know what the term "boxrec warrior" means, but just threw it out there since you've seen other people use it. :lol:
     
    horst, Mar 29, 2011
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  13. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

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    "who i'm takling to"? :lol:

    :patsch

    "do you know who i am...i am the mighty popkins..."

    :lol:

    didn't say it was right. in fact...i'm fairly certain i said it was wrong. but it's what happened. he got his wbo by winning a wbo trinket...& kept it by not losing...

    so when you said that the fights immediately leading were what "EARNED" him a title shot; you were wrong. AGAIN. do you not get sick of that?

    :lol:
     
    ploys, Mar 29, 2011
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  14. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

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    using boxrec to check a few facts; fine.

    basing whole arguments & opinions & even starting threads based solely on what you read on boxrec "recently": boxrec warrior.

    &

    "****stick"? :lol:

    great insult man...really... :nut
     
    ploys, Mar 29, 2011
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  15. horst

    horst Guest

    I have produced better threads than you in my time here. Fact. :smoke


    Thornberry got his title shot directly after an insanely bad run of opponents. Therefore, Thornberry getting a title shot was an ATG disgrace.

    No matter what you say, this point cannot even be debated. :smoke
     
    horst, Mar 29, 2011
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