Prime vs Prime Calzaghe vs Benn

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  1. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    why does that not surprise me :lol:
     
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    Hard to argue with Bernard Hopkins.
     
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    :lol::patsch Hopkins is having as much trouble as his fanboys in accepting Calzaghe beat him
     
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    This was before the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight
     
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    No wonder he thinks he won the fights he lost
     
  6. the_baller

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    Sorry, I don't have enough information. Calzaghe never foguth ANY ATG in their prime.

    Unable to decide the match up.:huh
     
  7. bailey

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    He did beat Hopkins though, sandwiched between Hopkins best wins :p
     
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    He didn't 'adapt' in the Brewer fight, did he. He just kept brawling right through when he could've outboxed Brewer due to faster feet and hands.

    He didn't 'adapt' in the Eubank fight either, making it harder than it could've been and risking being stopped or knocked out.

    I thought that's what he lacked!
     
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    he doesn't need to adapt when he is winning though pal. he won both those fights clearly on the scorecards.
     
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    He was being bashed from pillar to post in both fights (punches that would've taken down most other fighters in the div), why risk being stopped or knocked out if your brawling style isn't working like it could be and you have hand and foot speed? And being beaten up like that could've shortened his life expectancy, career-wise, dramatically.

    I respect Joe's workrate, fitness, power, chin and natural ability he showed in his career, though. But to 'adapt' for the first time in your career in your late 30s isn't too clever - he got away with it because Frank Warren wouldn't let him go when he had every right to (and let's face it, no TV station would've touched Joe)... he was perhaps the luckiest fighter of all-time that his promoter had a subscription TV deal where he could make money (millions) without drawing tickets, attracting viewers, fighting regularly, boxing cleverly, setting up KOs (better entertainment), or being a responsible professional.
     
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    The thing is - the vast majority of right hands (we're talking thousands) that Calzaghe took in his career he actually saw coming a mile off... he was lucky he had such a good chin, the most lenient schedule etc to get away with not adapting in fights. (It's right hands he didn't see coming that dropped him...)
     
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    Calzaghe would stop Benn in the latter rounds.
     
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    A disgrace to boxing
     
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    Benn would of ko'ed Joe in 7.

    Benn was a seriously bad mother****er on his day.

    I have never and no doubt will never see a bigger show of heart from a british fighter than when i seen Benn beat Mcclellan (sp?).

    Balls like watermelons my friend.
     
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    you see, i have a difference of opinion with you on the scoring of those fights, and although they were tricky opponents, i had calzaghe in front all the way through in both fights and saw no reason for calzaghe to adapt to win. the bravado has always been part of joes make up though and has got him in trouble in the past but what boxer in the last 20 years fights in adversity better than joe calzaghe did. he got knocked down 4 times and every single time he got straight back up and went toe to toe with his opponent and won the remainder of the round.

    with regards to the eubank fight, i was at that fight. i've only been to 2 calzaghe fights, both at the sheffield arena, and the irony was that i cheered both eubank and richie woodhall on in those 2 fights. however, despite cheering eubank on, i always thought throughout that calzaghe was on top and winning the fight and the judges scorecards in both the eubank and brewer fights reflect that.

    could calzaghe have won even clearer if he had fought a little differently in those fights - maybe.