Chagaev's promoter to sue WBA. Insists on mandatory title shot.

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  1. Grecorussian

    Grecorussian Active Member Full Member

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    I think 2 are the scenarios for this case.
    1. He will face Povetkin for the regular belt.
    2. He will remain OC and face the winner of Haye - WLad
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    The BBBoC will only issue a judgement on Chagaev if he has signed to fight a British boxer in Britain.

    If Chagaev signs to fight a British boxer that is licenced to box by the BBBoC (which is 99.9% of British boxers - Danny Williams being an exception) outside of the UK then the BBBoC can impose sanctions on that boxer - by revoking his licence to box here or fining him.

    The fact that Finland don't have an issue with Chagaev is irrelevant. All commissions have different rules and different interpretations on what they consider safe.

    I do agree though that it's time someone punished the WBA.
     
  3. Antsu

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  4. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was enough threath however, that it canceled entire fight.

    He hasn’t signed to fight any Brithis boxer at the moment, so it’s no wonder they haven’t officially made any decision.

    He will lose his case. His medical condition is not WBA fault.
     
  5. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chagaev, SNV, and the whole WBA situation are one big joke. Haye would have fought him by now if Chagaev was fit to fight, but he wasn't. In his last fight Chagaev looked like crap and now he wants a title shot. He should fight Valuev again for an interim belt, and then Ruiz for the lineal title. :verysad
     
  6. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chagaev still has the legal ground to demand the fight. What will happen is that Chagaev will just be paid for the step aside money.
     
  7. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Try and twist it however you want, you said HIV just like you said before he has HIV. There's no disputing your track record of ignorance here.
     
  8. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    No Sauerland cancelled the entire fight. Valuev was given the option to face the mandatory contender Kali Meehan, who was on the undercard. He declined that fight also to run away with the WBA belt. Lamon Brewster and some other guys had fights lined up also, Sauerland pulled the plug on all of that. You can't possibly attribute it all to Chagaev. He was given the OK.

    You're right, his condition is not the fault of the WBA. However the WBA was aware of his condition for quite some time and if it was such a problem they should have never sanctioned an eliminator for him in the first place if he wasn't going to be given his shot. But they did, and they should have enforced it on Haye instead of letting him dance around it and try to set up a mandatory of his choosing.

    The WBA has screwed around long enough and it's time they get the backlash for getting into Sauerland/DK's back pocket.
     
  9. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    How do you figure he wasn't fit to fight? There's been no reports or sources indicating Chagaev isn't able to meet Haye.

    Solis looked like crap in his last fight, but he got his shot at Vitali. Why shouldn't Chagaev get his shot, even if he looked like crap against Walker? Why the double standard? Once you when an eliminator and you're the mandatory, you deserve your shot. It's simple.
     
  10. dragosuhail

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    doesn't the WBA champ get elevated to Super Champ in the event of a unification anyway?

    and doesn't the winner of that unification recieve the Super Champ status and with it the ability to avoid fighting for the WBA regular 'paper' belt?

    if so, then what's the big deal??? i think wlad is going to be the winner so theorectically that will make him the WBA Super Champ. chagaev will be regular champ BUT they don't need to fight as the super champ gets the ability to ignore the 'regular' champ. so really there is no drama in this situation. hell, chageav should be happy he can face a softer foe for the WBA regular belt! and i'm sure he's in no hurry to face wlad again.

    yes i know all these belts are silly but at least this situation should not affect how haye/wlad are crowned when they fight.

    this will help the unified champ too as he will only need to regularly defend against mandatories from the IBF and WBO. the IBO and WBA super champ dont need to make regular defences to keep their belts.
     
  11. Spud565

    Spud565 Active Member Full Member

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    ...what about the ringside spectators, you want to make them have vaccinations aswell?
     
  12. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    It's not my decision to make.

    For the sake of the argument, the risk of transmission to a ringside spectator is minute at best. Blood would have to fly of Chagaev and into a spectators open mouth or fall directly onto an open sore to transmit the virus. How likely is that to happen? Still there theoretically is risk, however in most developed countries a Hep B vaccination is given from birth. Is it safe to say England is a developed nation with modern medicine practices? I think so.
     
  13. bremen

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    Finland did not have an issue with Chagaev because there was not enough evidence that he was contagious. Chagaev claims his tests are OK, BBBofC is silent on the matter. He may be already cleared to fight in Britain for all we know. WBA was supposed to call for purse bid at least a month ago. The entire situation stinks. They don't even try to cover it up.
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

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    The British board take the opposite view.

    You have to prove that you are fit to box - if there's the slightest doubt, he'd be refused permission.

    They'd only be forced to make a judgement if Haye's camp won the bids and announced their intention to stage the fight here. If the fight was scheduled for elsewhere Haye would be fined and then placed under a strict examination before he was allowed to box here again.

    You are right though that the WBA created this mess for themselves by failing to threaten to strip Haye for not fighting Chagaev or by nominating another challenger in his place..... they just wanted their share of the Haye/Wlad money, just like the IBF and WBO do.

    Chagaev will be paid an agreed amount of money to relieve the WBA of their obligation, and the matter will be considered closed.
     
  15. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's, of course, assuming Chagaev fails the medical. That has not happened yet.