Is David Haye out of his depth against Klitschko ?

the thing is either haye is made to look stupid

or he is as good as i hope he and Ko's W K

 

Haye has a slim chance, and IMO has the power to maybe rock/hurt Wlad.

Also, Haye doesn't have fitness.

 

if haye wins it will dent the klits legacy alot as it will show they were only able to dominate a weak division

if klits win againt a live haye it increases their resume because it shows they really are that good

 

I see him as being of the same caliber as Juan Carlos Gomez. Saying he has a punchers chance probably seems a bit unfair but in a way it's true. Let's face it, he can't out box Wlad, he only just managed to out box the woeful robot Valuev and I don't want to hear no moaning that he injured his right hand, that didn't take away his jab did it?

He probably has the power to take Wlad out if he gets lucky, but the Haye fanatics seem to think this prime version of Wlad still fights every fight like he did nearly 10 years ago against Sanders, perhaps they haven't been watching Wlad in recent times.

Conclusion I give Haye about a 20% chance of beating a 100% fit Wlad.

 

Haye like solis will realise by the end of rd1 that he's way out of his league.
Klits are no Harrison, thompson, mormek or big mac...
These are big lumps with great technical ability..

 

At least Haye isn't overweight plus he has a history of diligent and disciplined preparation for fights. So that at least gives him a basic fighting chance.

I don't agree with Haye's own hypothesis how Wlad is custom-made for him style wise but I hope we'll see that question answered in the ring.

Out of his depth? Yes, he's pretty much outmatched in every department. Doesn't mean he can't win, just means he has the odds stacked against him.

 

I rewatched Haye v Ruiz the other day and was surprised ow many times Ruiz a slow handed fighter landed clean shots on Haye, luckily Ruiz at that stage of his retirement had no power whts so ever so Haye was never in danger of being KO'd but can he afford to be hit vs a Klit?
Or will he revert to his tactics v Vaulev ( which I think he will) and not engage...

 

atsch

 

Yes and no.

When you hear the term, one punch can change a fight, its generally not always that relevant, as most fights tend go according to the script, simply cause most promoters are putting their fighters in with people they have greater % chance of beating, and when push comes to shove, Boxing is generally not about getting lucky with a punch, its about having the skills to create opening for those types of punches, however when you get a fighter with a bad chin, and one with devastating power, he always gonna have a chance, no matter how slim, cause he can change all the stylistics by landing a big punch.


There seems to be a pattern throughout history regarding weak chinned fighters, that they are inconsistent........Wlad, Junior Jones, Terry Norris.

 

David Haye has a better chance than anyone else in the division (aside from Vitali), but because of that people overrate his chances. Haye has two of the ingredients needed to beat Wlad- speed and power, but Wlad matches him for both attributes and is better in every other department. You could argue that styles make fights, but that can be flipped around. Wlad has the style to give Haye nightmares. Personally I don't think styles are the main factor in this one. I just think Wlad is a much better fighter, and sometimes it just comes down to the better fighter winning regardless of styles

Also, no one seems to factor experience into the equation. Wlad is far, far more experienced than Haye is without being past prime. Haye has a mountain to climb, no doubt about that

 

My expectation is that this fight will go pretty much like all of Wlad's fights for the last 5 years. His opponent will get outclassed in every sense of the word, and will be lucky to win a round. If the fight goes 12 rounds then it will be a big surprise - and mostly down to whether Haye can run for that long, especially given that stamina is not his strong point.

Afterwards people will be disappointed that they bought into the hype and were let down by another one-sided thrashing.
People will wonder why the hell they rated Haye 3rd best in the division, and will see with perfect 20/20 hindsight that he really wasn't that good.

 

+1 good post

 

Yo, what's the name if that sheeeit you're smoking? I'm off to Amsterdam in a few weeks, I wanna try and get some :rasta

 

of course not,if he was,this fight just wouldnt have the same interest in it.

Klitschkos,especially wladimir are hugely over rated,the division really is that bad,and they should be beating these bums up and knocking them out much quicker and in a way more entertaining way.

Haye has all the tools to beat them,the speed,the power,the ability to hit and move,hit without getting hit,like he did to 7 foot valuev.

Klitschkos defences really arent that good,flat footed,slow and weak punching no hopers just make them look defensivly good.but all they do is use the height and clinch/hold/lean/lean back.

they do the same combinations every fight,their there to be hit by someone like Haye