which fighters were one win away from being the goat?

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  1. goat15

    goat15 Active Member Full Member

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    so foreman would have carried on fighting and gone unbeaten until the holyfield fight? taking care of holmes and tyson?

    well then his resume would have ali, holmes, frazier x2, tyson and norton. yeah that's getting on for being the greatest!

    my opinion is that foreman was just waiting to be exposed - a limited fighter in his youth.
     
  2. funkboxblue

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  3. goat15

    goat15 Active Member Full Member

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    he won his biggest fight.
     
  4. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Huh?

    His one loss came when he was light years past his prime, and Bobby Joe Young is hardly the opponent to boost your resume.

    Now his resume would've of course risen a lot if he had accepted the Leonard fight and managed to win
     
  5. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This.

    Besides the thread seems to call for reversing 1 win, I'm not exactly sure that Foreman beating Ali would be enough. Given the inevitability of Ali's stock declining.
     
  6. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Foreman had beaten Ali, he would have been the best fighter of the 70s (the golden era). Ali's stock would have fell a bit, but he still would have beaten Frazier and ended the 70s as top dog after foremans retirement.

    When Foreman has his second 90s reincarnation it would be something special that only the greatest could have done. (as opposed to now) where we know it was a special effort but we also know he wasnt the greatest, because in his prime he wasnt even the greatest in his own era.
     
  7. goat15

    goat15 Active Member Full Member

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    yeah i see all of that, but i still don't think foreman would be the greatest, even in those circumstances. he'd have great top wins - ali, frazier, norton, moorer - but that's far from goat-worthy.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I can't think of one win that I'm certain would have made someone the number 1, in weight division OR p4p.

    But if Holmes had beaten Tyson that would have been greatly impressive addition to his elite ATG heavyweight credentials.

    Now, if SPINKS had beat Tyson he'd be a POUND-FOR-POUND legend extraordinary !
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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  10. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey-Wills would've made beleivers out of a lot more modern day revisionists for some reason??
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rodrigo Valdez vs Carlos Monzon
     
  12. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    de la hoya beating hopkins would of really put him up there

    if tito beat him it would not mean anything cos of hopkins standing before

    a pac win over mayweather will really see him shoot into the top five standings

    archie moore winning heavyweight title against patterson or marciano would have him standing toe to toe with robinson

    michael spinks beating mike tyson

    even though he is generally considered da greatest, a robinson win over maxim would further solidify his status
     
  13. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no way. lewis was seriously underated at the time and would still be if he lost to tyson

    same if holyfield beat him
     
  14. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    a louis win over marciano maybe in the future if marciano wins the title. but it would probably alter rockys standing in the hw rankins

    an ali win over holmes would rocket him to number one by most modern pundits

    leonard beating norris wouldnt have meant that much cos norris was not that highly rated. i think srl was favoured to win that fight

    a win for duran against hagler would make him number one in a lot of modern fans eyes. hearns would have to settle the score against leonard to get himslef up there
     
  15. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Armstrong beat Robinson there'd be no argument, surely

    edit - haha need to start reading more than the title before i post