Better Resume Monzon or Hagler

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I saw an argument between two fans won said Haglers was way better and that Monzon didnt beat anybody

    The guy contended that Benvenuti and Griffith were better middleweights than the Hearns and Duran Hagler fought and Napoles was on Leonards level for a welter

    Who was more in the right, whose resume is better
     
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  2. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The aspiring wife beater was more right. Even though he doesn't exist and you're just making this event up, with subliminal suggestion, with an agenda to make posters defend Monzon's position and attack Hagler's
     
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  3. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    For me Monzon has the better resume and is better H2H.

    Both are ATG fighters and two of the most dominating MWs ever known.
     
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  4. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Did this happen in a dream?
     
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  5. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it has to go one way it should be in the way of the Argentinean.
     
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  6. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Making it up why would I make it up I didnt wanna post the comments but ya made me do it

    Monzon's quality of opponents was lesser than Hagler's. Most people recognize he got hosed against Leonard or else he would've gone out the same way and against better competition. The division record is immaterial. If the klitschko break joe louis' record, does that make them better fighters? not likely. Monzon didn't beat greats like Duran or Hearns. He's above Hopkins, but below Hagler cbaldwinjr 1 year ago
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    Monzon beat Emile Griffith, who is an all time great and was a better middleweight than Duran and Hearns. Check their record
    José Napoles was in Leonard's class as a welterweight, easily top 5 of all time, and got destroyed by Monzon. Like it or not, Hagler had a dead close fight with Sugar Ray and lost the title
     
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  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    That says it for me...and yes, Monzon and Hagler are the two greatest middleweight champions.:thumbsup:deal
     
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  8. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
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  9. D.T

    D.T Guest

    Hagler better resume and better H2H.


    Both of their resumes are packed with fat Welterweights, but Hagler has the more accomplished fat Welterweights on his resume.


    END OF THREAD.
     
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  10. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Monzon. Resume and H2H I give him the edge.

    They both beat a fair share of solid contenders, but Valdez was a better middleweight than anyone Hagler beat, and Benvenuti and Griffith were a superior duo at the weight than Hearns and Duran.
     
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  11. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Monzon. Both are top 30 all time, 4 & 5 at 160 lb behind Greb, SRR & Burley.
     
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  12. Commando

    Commando Guest

    Carlos Monzon

    Jorge Fernandez x2
    Jean Claude Bouttier x2
    Tony Mundine
    Denny Moyer
    Tom Bogs
    Emile Griffith
    Tony Licata
    Rodrigo Valdez x2
    Jose Napoles
    Tito Marshall
    Nino Benvenuti
    Bennie Briscoe




    Marvin Hagler


    Juan Domingo Roldan
    Vito Antuofermo x2
    Sugar Ray Seales x3
    Bennie Briscoe
    Kevin Finnegan x2
    Alan Minter
    Thomas Hearns
    Mustafa Hamsho x2
    Tony Sibson
    Eugene Hart
    Bobby Watts
    Roberto Duran



    Pretty close to be honest, but I have to give it to Hagler
     
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  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Hmm, Hagler is one of my top 4 fav fighters but I have to give this one to Monzon though it's close but clear. I haven't seen enough Monzon as many of his fights on youtube aren't in the best quality and I don't want to get his career set and find out I that I made a wrong choice. I want to see his Valdez fights so bad but the quality on yt is so crap. Both some of the best MW's though Robinson I feel should be ahead of them.
     
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  14. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I considered Monzon to be slightly better. Hagler was more spectacular, but Monzon just seemed the more consistent. Not much at all is in it though.
     
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  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hey..Benvenuti and Griffith WERE better middleweights than Hearns and Duran..and Napoles at his best..in terms of sheer ability WAS on the level of Leonard..
     
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