A very different question about Pac and Peds: Read carefully

I just don't get the bigger and more powerful argument... The only thing I could have ever suspected was the workrate increasing or at least remaining the same while going up in weight class.

Anyhow, it can all be explained logically if he's not on anything.

 

Never thought he was on anything but there are people out there who hate people who work hard and achieve great things............It`s called jealousy!!! Mayweather, his family and his fans are so consumed with jealousy they cannot think straight so they push out rumours and weak minded turds with very little intelligence believe those rumours.

 

No i never thought he was on anything.

 

I read this carefully as you demanded. There are spelling and grammatical errors.

I only entertained the thought of Pacquiao being on something after Mayweather Sr. started opening his huge mouth about it. I still need proof, not conjecture and speculation.

 

I was gonna respect your request to not answer but then I saw your avatar

You thought hes on PEDS after he knock hatton out? Did you see that shot? I could have knocked hatton out with that shot and the only ped im on is rice

Cotto was beat because he stopped boxing and tried to go toe to toe with pac, thats his bread n butter, he gets fighters into exchanges then fuks them up with shots they dont see.

 

Yeah he is, so are most of them in MMA. I actually wonderd if Pacquiao used stuff when he was right down at SFW because he always looked bigger and more ripped than his opponents. The thing is you see guys like Lesnar who never fail a test and guys like RJJ, SSM, Shane Cairwin, Holyfield who have all never failed a test but eventually been caught when they were on a list of names released by a raided steroid pharmacy and you think the testing must be useless.

 

There was not a single metion until the Mayweathers jumped on that wagon. Then the Floyd fanboys and those who just hate Pac (probably for beating Great Mexicans:roll jumped on as well.

 

i know, at the time, obviously i thought hatton and cotto were too strong for him going up, from watching him struggle with morales and marquez that were smaller and with less power. Also by the fact that he didn't steamrolled david diaz in 2 rounds like hatton

 

and about the ko punch on hatton. i recall hatton getting hit flush all night vs kostya tsyu who was a ko puncher and he never wobbled or go down. pac was coming up to 140, kostya was a natural strong 140 and pac touches his chin 1 time and down goes ricky. that's what got me wondering

 

I would be amazed if Pac ever got caught.

 

I read Pacs book, he expected ricky to try an bully him in that fight, he knew & roach knew it.

In the fight as you seen, pac used his right alot in the 2 rounds...
the reason was that he was trying to get Riccky to forget about his straight left.

then Boom! down goes hatton, he went down coz he didnt see the shot coming, with pac taking cotto shots the diff was Pac was waiting n ready for those shots. He saw them coming

 

pacquiao can't beat benitez....so benitez is also suspicious before

 

Nice thread:

A real sitting on the fence argument here..

I never thought it until his last performance against Margarito...yes pac won every round but he took a hell of a lot of punishment...

Around the 6th round Margarito looked like he was trapping pac on the ropes and getting more successful... at this point i was convinced it was the beginning of the end for pac ...some will say "what fight was you watching ?!!" but the cotto v margarito bout was still so fresh in my mind and i could see margarito get a bit more enthusiastic that there was a chance he could walk Manny down here..

well rounds 8-12 i couldnt believe what i had witnessed even out brawling margarito at times on the ropes...a total destruction job...the whole thing just blew my mind ...actually it went beyond that... for me it just didn't make sense

Whether or not I would have ever doubted pac if mayweather sr hadn't planted that seed, I cant say.

However you are innocent until proven guilty on this planet and I just hope soo much that what all of us boxing fans have watched the past 2-3 years is one of the world greatest boxers matched perfectly with inferior (although bigger) come forward fighters

 

very good post

 

The thing that made me thing he was on steroid is his stamina he is a machine that can go for 12 rounds of non stop throwing jumping in and out around the ring without ever showing signs of getting tired... that is some BS or the dude is really a physical great..