Mayweather real concern about Pacquiao is stanima

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  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Yea, that was a str8 right that he used which requires more commitment and risk than a jab.

    It's harder to shoot the body jab against someone fighting in the opposite stance, so they like to opt for str8s. emmanuel tried his 1-2 downstairs combo, the same one that caused Cotto's first knockdown, against Marquez but ate a hook, right hand, and hook combo counter.
     
  2. Anima

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    I know Floyd is smart, but it is impossible for Floyd not to initiate. Even if it happens rarely against Pac.

    I've watched Floyd fights closer recently, one that I watched the most was against Marquez. I can assure you, He threw less than 5 types of punches.
    The lounging left(the one that knocked JMM down), The jab to the body, The right straight and the pull counter.

    Most are habitual punches.

    I'm not saying Manny will win, I'm just saying It's very very possible for Pac to hurt Floyd given that Floyd has these habitual punches that Manny can force an exchange of punch.

    Floyd's lounging punch against Pac's left straight.

    Pac's Fake against the pull counter.

    Interesting who would hit first, Who would crack first.
     
  3. Anima

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    As far as I remember It was a jab ? or a straight right to the body, I remember Floyd was lower than Zab at that moment thus why I said that the punch was going for the body.

    Nonetheless, That habitual Floyd punch can be an exchange. Floyd's jab/straight to the body against Pac's Manila ice(right hook).
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    Pac's combo that he uses is jab upstairs, straight downstairs, and then jab upstairs. JMM was able to step away from it and fire off a pinpoint three powerpunch combo, two of which landed, while practically in mid-air. JMM is the only fighter in the sport who can pull something like that off. He actually really reached out really far with that last left hook, something an extremely defensive minded fighter like Floyd would never try to do
     
  5. Leon

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    YOu sure he wasn't trying to do the jab and str8 downstairs followed by a hook upstairs on marquez, the same one that knocked cotto down?:huh
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    If we're talking about the second round in the Marquez fight, it's jab upstairs, straight downstairs, jab upstairs

    the Cotto one was jab upstairs, straight downstairs, hook upstairs, followed by an uppercut. The difference is that Cotto doesn't move back as fast as Marquez, so Pacquiao is in range for a hook inside and an uppercut.
     
  7. Leon

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    Whoever throws a str8 to the body has to be careful because they have both been countered like this before.

    Zab caught Floyd with a counter hook.

    Juan clipped emmanuel with a hook + str8 + hook.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    the first hook never landed for JMM
     
  9. Anima

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    That's my point brother. It is very very possible that somebody is going to get countered and possibly get stunned.
     
  10. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's entrance music alone KO's Floyd. Not many people can enter to the Karate Kid theme song and actually pull it off...
     
  11. NotAnMMAfan

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    And you compare PAC to that guy? Good luck :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  12. caneman

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    Style wise and size advantage, Marquez was already defeated when the fight was signed. Floyd forced Marquez to initiate the offense, something Marquez isn't comfortable with. 12 pounds of extra belly fat on a lightweight doesn't help your cause either trying to beat a bigger fighter than can beat you with the jab alone.
     
  13. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    That worked for De La Hoya for 8 rounds. Those 3 attributes are related and all failed Oscar from rounds 9-12.

    That won't happen with Pac.

    That's why the fight won't happen.
     
  14. Scar

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    There's too much to be concerned about when facing Pacquiao. There's stamina, one punch KO power, speed, movement, skill, chin, heart and underrated defense.

    That's why this fight is demanded by the public, no one knows what to expect.
     
  15. NotAnMMAfan

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    Mayweather's real concern is actually his dad's concern. Floyd Senior really think Pac will hurt his son and kept repeating it til Money Floyd believes it.... The way Pac handled Hatton Cotto Clottey and Margo was the final nail on the coffin.. It's these performance that lead Floyd Senior to believe his son has finally meet his match...