Krzysztof Wlodarczyk vs. Francisco Palacios RBR

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  1. funkykoval

    funkykoval Active Member Full Member

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    actually for me it was a little similar to Valuew-Haye

    Palacios were dancing/running around Wlodarczyk shooting lame combos which WLodarczyk blocked almost every single shot

    so if you feel that Haye deserve the win against Valuew you will probably see the winning tonight for Palacios

    but I see it the way that contender must win the fight against a champion

    it is not ****ing archery contest, contender must beat the champion and Palacios actually landed very few punches, but to be true Wlodarczyk also landed as little as it can be

    its actually like archery contest when both of the guys cant shot a clean shot at the shield, and OK palacios throw more arrows but they were miss so you cannot give him a win
     
  2. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was wrong. All three judges had it 116-112 DA.
     
  3. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had it 116-112 Palacios, but could have seen it even wider for him. On the other hand, we have seen similar outcomes. Not surprising.
     
  4. val

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    Well, I wouldn't call Cunningham an 'away' fighter in the first place, since he fought in his home country. And the judge having it 114-112 for Cunningham, imo was biased, I mean most likely without even being aware of it. Objectively, it's safe to say that Cunningham won at least as many rounds as Adamek and because he fought very brave despite knockdowns, the judges (and many viewers) thought he deserved ... something. The thing is he clearly didn't deserve either win or draw. He lost. Maybe if you watch the fight again you'll see it different.
     
  5. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I must be thinking of Lederman then.

    had it 116-113 Palacios
     
  6. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Well, Adamek regularly fights in Newark, NJ. There is a large polish contingent their, and he regularly draws big home crowds. It's his venue in the US. So in that sense, Cunningham was travelling to a place where the opposition fought regularly, and had the crowd behind him at all times. That's an away atmosphere if nothing else.

    Why didn't he deserve a draw? I scored the fight a few months ago, and that was the result I got. I'm not complaining about Adamek winning, because he deserved to. It's just that their exists a completely justifiable argument as to why that fight could be a draw.

    However, if you see the fight differently, then I can't argue too much. I'm not the opinion police.
     
  7. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Adamek's first fight at the Prudential center was the Cunningham one, it wasn't like it was his fourth one there and it was clear that it would be packed with Polish fans. He also didn't deserve to win/draw (Cunningham) because he was dropped three times and Adamek won enough rounds to keep the lead.
     
  8. qwertyz

    qwertyz Ready to rumble Full Member

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    ****, you know what? I've been there. I was pretty excited before the fight. There where many of boxers like Albert Sosnowski, Pawel Kolodziej, Kostecki, everybody was having fun and expected a great show and possible a KO. Now when I'm back home I feel really disappointed. It was me and many other who bought the tickets and paid for entertaining fight and we got the circus back. We were using our troat as loud as we could, while screaming Diablo, Diablo! and he did ****ing nothing to show some heart and respect to 10k of people ! The crowd was ****ing pissed off, Diablo has done NOTHING to retain his belt, he didn't deserve the victory. Palacios was more active, more dominant and if I was forced to finger the winner it would be Palacios. While watching it live I was leaned to give 119-109 for the Wizard. For me and my mates it was a pure robbery. First what I thought after the decision I say '****, Germany style, Palacios is a champ'. If we knew it goes that way, we wouldn't come and watch that boredom. I want my cash back and more Diablo's involvement, where's your heart man?
     
  9. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
  10. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cheers for your honest mate, I can't see how anyone could have scored that fight for Wlod.
     
  11. KillerDeluxe

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    jesus dude, just chill out...

    Wlodarczyk lost. Simple as. Wojak Promotions could of been nice and gave Palacios a draw, which would be a good outcome really...but Wlodarczyk lost. Even the Polish fans all over the net are yelling robbery...Don't listen to the verbal garbage Kulej and Kostyra were spewing from their mouths.... Im a Diablo fan and I myself gave him like 4 rounds tops. Maybe 5...Maybe. But like I said before, Lebedev would clown both of these fools.
     
  12. qwertyz

    qwertyz Ready to rumble Full Member

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    Btw, how did it look in TV ? I think that everyone could be satisfied of the view in hall. Everywhere was quite good. But the cameraman, mutha****a was bothering so badly. I was sitted next to dressing room exit, and the enterings were probably the best thing in all of the show, beside the beer at the riverside before the event ;) greetings men.

    how do you like ?
     
  13. Steenalized

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    I'm entirely calm, it's been most of the poeple attacking my score who are slinging mud. I agree absolutely that Lebedev tears through these two, but at the same time I just don't score fighters who fight like Palacios did very generously. Running and not landing (but keeping your opponent inactive) is not a way to win for me.
     
  14. Steenalized

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    You mean like the actual production of the show? It was good quality, a bit short on graphics compared to what you'd see on Showtime/HBO, but the cameras were fine.
     
  15. abbes

    abbes Guest

    I'm Polish too.
    Puertorico got robbed. Shame on WBC/promoters/CW