I spoke with Lou Duva and Doug Lord the other day regarding Nick Wells

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  1. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    I am of course on this wild mission to find footage of the old man and was able to make contact with both of these guys.

    Bert Sugar referred me to Lou and of course I called and talked to him , I told him who I was and he immediatly started to talk about Nick and how he was a great puncher. He said that if he had gotten his hands on Nick he was sure that he could've taught him right and had him in contention for a title. I was calling to ask him about the boxing shows that Lou use to host that Nick was featured in .One of them Nick had knocked a guy out in the first round, then Nick was told to wait in the ring and a new fighter was brought in to the ring within a matter of minutes , the bell rang and Nick knocked the other guy out in the first round. He is going to try to find these for me.

    I also spoke to Doug Lord (Curtis Cokes trainer)about getting fight footage, and he was talking about how Nick had beat his fighter James Helwig ,a TCU linebacker while Nick was still in high school. Doug said that he wanted Nick bad and was witout a doubt that he could've made Nick world champion. Unforunatly Winky Groom got a hold of Nick and ruined him. Doug spoke very highly of Nick and said that hewould've taught Nick the right way and to make Nick become a great Professional that would've been around a long time and had a title reign.
    Pretty big words from two highly touted trainers. I was impressed.
     
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  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hope you will succeed in your try.
    I hope even more that you or someone else will get the Larry Holmes fights 1 and 2 to either youtube or somewhere else .
     
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  3. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    did they elaborate on how wells was ruined?
     
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  4. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    No ,but I can say this.Winky Groom was a buisnessman not a trainer .
     
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  5. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BOXING'S WELLS COULD FIRE UP A CROWD, TURN OUT THE LIGHTS



    Fort Worth Star-Telegram July 7, 2007 Author: JIM REEVES; Star-Telegram Staff Writer




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  6. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude, my Dad and I loved to watch your Dad fight. Man, we saw him starch the British champ. the Russian champ, the Polish champ and the Puerto Rican champ. The only one that I saw get the better of him was that big East German Peter Hussing, who had half a foot on Nick. It was funny you mentioning Lou Duva because I have a photo in an old Boxing Illustrated of your Dad standing next to him around '72 or '73 in an international amateur show that Lou appeared to have staged (can't recall if it was against the British team or the Polish team). I think your Dad was holding the US flag and they were announcing all the contestants before the show started. When thinking of those great old Saturday afternoon shows ABC or CBS (Sports Spectacular) would show, I always think of how crooked those Eastern Bloc officials were. Everyone knew they would steal an American win if they could and it was no different against the Polish team. Your Dad fought a real veteran that night and he dropped Nick with a tremendous body shot. But slowly Nick came on and in the 3rd round was battering his opponent. Now get this, Polish dude turns away, drapes his arms on the ropes with his back to Nick. He's done for the evening with his face a bloody mess. The Eastern Bloc ref will not stop the fight. It's out of camera shot because it is focusing on Polish dude's bloody face, but the ref had to have told your Dad to box on, which was ridiculous. Anyways, you see your Dad's glove pop Ziggy (that was his name) a couple of light taps with absolutely no response. Again, the camera was not focused on your Dad and the ref who are probably arguing, but he still would not stop the fight. Finally Ziggy turns and half-heartedly finishes out the round. Even as a kid I knew the ref was hoping Ziggy would finish the round and possibly take the decision. Luckily enough Nick got the fight but you couldn't trust that bunch. It was always a stacked deck when we went against East Euro. I'd love to know what your Dad's memories of that bout were and was I correct on my thinking.

    Scartissue
     
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  7. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    Scartissue, these fights that you speak of are the ones that I am trying to get my hands on . I have spoken with Bert Sugar and Brent Musburger about this. They are working on it, the only roadblock that their is , is that the films are on 8 to 16 mm tape and need to be converted. i even offered money to both of the guys and they said that it was not necessary, it is just going to take a little time. I even spoke with Larry Holmes a couple of weeks ago and he is in the same pursuit to find old footage. He was actually quite nice to me which I really did not know what to expect.
    I am so glad to hear from someone who actually used to watch this stuff. I'm not trying to toot my fathers horn here, these fights are purley for sentimental value , as well as for my children. One of my boys has a physical disability but is a s smart as a whip and has grown to like watching boxing with me. He really wants to see what his grandfather did back in the day.
    One story I do recall was when he was fighting in Italy and knocked out the Italian Champ in the first round and dad was holding his hands in the air for his victory and the Italian crowd was whistling and dad thought they were cheering for him when in fact the whistles were boos against him . The USA olympic boxing coach came up to dad and forcfully pushed my dads hands down and said"Put your hands down, they will kill you!" My dad was then quickly ushered out of the arena.
     
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  8. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    I remember this article Longhorn, Reeves has several articles written about dad. Reeves retired from writing sports columns shortly after writing this article. He was a great writer for the Ft Worth Star Telegram.
     
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