Helenius' heavyweight record almost as good as Haye's

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  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I was actually surprised that Helenius got the job done with the left hook. Very nice shot that one. Peter seemed to get a bit of momentum going by the 4th, but Robert took over and finished things in the 9th.

    I can't say I'm overly impressed compared to, say, Wlad vs Mercer (2000), but he got the job done and seems to be pretty hard to beat. I'd like to see him fight at least one of the top guys before he faces a Klitschko. He might actually be the guy to dethrone an aging Vitali... Wlad would rip him apart though.
     
  2. jomiyo

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    And yet he's managed to become a superstar ATG heavyweight! :happy
     
  3. speck

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    Having seen Haye's pathetic 'performance' vs Valuev, I'd bet on Helenius if they fought. But that will never happen - Wlad will dispatch Haye into retirement in June-July.
     
  4. Money Shot

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    I doubt a guy like Carl Thompson would KO Hellenius. :yep
     
  5. DavidChao

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    If we just look at things in terms of those two wins, when you think of the fashion in which Robert won and his relative wet-around-the-earsness, Helenius > Haye.

    I'm just being an ass, though. But yea, those specific wins from Helenius are much more valuable than the two mentioned for Haye imo.
     
  6. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you kidding? Helenius has a better heavyweight resume than Haye, much better. Ruiz was an embarrassin 4-4 going into the fight with Haye, and, while a decently rugged fighter, was never exceptional. Valuev has had three surgeries in the last four years.

    Peter may have lost a few fights, but he lost them to the Klitschkos and Chambers, a very respectable fighter in his own right. He brings power and ok hand speed to the equation. Brewster was really in the same boat as Ruiz, a past his best fighter, but he is rugged and has a huge punch.

    Beyond that Helenius resume is much deeper as guys like Gbenga, Bidenko and Levin are better than Audley, Barrett and Bonin.

     
  7. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seconding this. I thought he looked like a work in progress a few years ago, but he has really turned it on lately. If you aren't impressed by Robert Helenius, you aren't a fan of boxing.
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's disgraceful that anyone would make any sort of comparison between Robert Helenius and George Foreman.

    You're an idiot.
     
  9. Sakura

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    I read from one of the other boxing forum that before 9 round was the coach Wegner said to Helenius do as the Klitschkos do and knock Peter out - and that's what happened..
     
  10. BoxingFan2010

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    No! too many faults for that to happen at this point in time.
     
  11. BoxingFan2010

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    Good points. I can agree untill "Haye beats Klitschko" . Will not happen, at least I don't think it will. Understand that point as well though.

    Peace
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Forget "almost as good" - it's arguably better.

    IMO if you take any combination of 4 of his last 6 opponents (Bydenko, shot Brewster, Oloukun, Tony, Levin, shot Peter) it's +/= the run of shot Barret, Valuev (controversial), shot Ruiz and shot Harrison.
     
  13. BoxingFan2010

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    I don't see anything special about Helenius yet to get excited about all the hype.

    Peace
     
  14. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    No, no I am not. You are yet another known troll. Everything is s "disgrace" to you accept Haye's consitantly disgraceful behavior.

    Helenius is on his way to a great career.