middleweight Roy Jones wouldve dominated any middleweight except for Tommy hearns

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll take Hagler and Monzon over Roy at 160, no doubt about it.

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  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Same ...


    What about G-man at 160?
     
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  3. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    He was 145 against SRL.
     
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  4. GTWOSIX

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    same with me
     
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    yes:deal
     
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  6. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    Hagler, Monzon, Hearns and PRIME HOPKINS. All Beat Roy!
     
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  7. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i absolutely love monzon. in the top 3 of my all time faves. best middle in history. against jones though, he loses on the cards. monzon would have his moments, but jones's style of moving on the back foot and boxing with speed would be the decider. jones would use the jab and left hook to great affect as monzon looks to walk him down. as soon as jones connects with a couple of shots, he'd move out of range leaving monzon's right hands hitting thin air. jones wouldn't be able to avoid them all though. i see monzon landing enough to shake jones, but not enough to stop him.

    against fighters he could close the distance on, he was a wrecking machine. against a fighter who had the speed of jones, he ends up looking a bit clumsy and ends up losing a UD.

    sad but true.
     
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  8. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  9. PowerHoock

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    american hype jobs! they wouldnt dominate ****! only other americans
     
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  10. lightsoutoli

    lightsoutoli Active Member banned

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    He didnt dodge James toney Roy Jones from 154 to 168 beat them all and he beat a prime hopkins too. he beat mike mccllean that had a draw with james toney
     
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  11. Imperial1

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    Gman for real wich version beats him ? The one who lost to the likes of Dennis
    Milton and Ralph Ward or the one who beat Julian Jackson who incidently lost to Mike McCallum who Jones smoked like a fine Cuban cigar ???Which Gman beats Jones ?

    Hagler he would be the toughest because he could walk through bullets ..Monzon would not be able to deal with Jones speed imo
     
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  12. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    What?

    Who EVER outboxed Hearns?

    He was probably the best pure boxer of his generation, there's not been anybody as skilled as he was since his best days left him.

    At any weight below 175 he's a nightmare for pretty much everybody. Remember that he stood Virgil Hill on his head when well past his best, and Hill was an unbeaten champion with about ten defences against top line fighters.
     
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  13. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    this ^ For Gods Sake
     
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  14. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Up until the Toney fight, Jones was primarily MW and 26-0 at the time. 23 ended before the final bell. The man had ATG power and speed. I'd give him a great chance at beating many other greats at the weight, but there was really no one at an elite level to test him other than Hopkins and Toney at the time.
     
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  15. KillSomething

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    Jones fought Toney at 168...

    The only really good fighter Jones beat at 160 was a green Hopkins. Remember, Jones only had 2 title fights at middleweight (Tate and Hopkins) and six at supermiddle (Toney, Pazienza, Thornton, Byrd, Lucas, Brannon).

    For a guy with a resume that limited at the weight, all this talk about him being the best is just conjecture. Sure he looked unstoppable, but look at his opposition.

    Talk about hjs accomplishments at 175 all you want, that's his true weight for me.

    Jones didn't come anywhere close to 'beating them all.'

    Where are these names on Jones' record?

    Julian Jackson
    Gerald McClellan
    Nigel Benn
    Chris Eubank
    Steve Collins
    Michael Watson
    Herol Graham
    Frankie Liles
     
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