James toney ruined sam peter

The worst thing that happened to Peter imo was him being able to boxistically school James Toney in their rematch.
Peter in that fight worked off a powerful jab and dominated Toney within the context of using it against Toney.
......in his subsequent fights following dominating Toney, Peter eased off alot on his aggressive seek and destroy attack mode, and worked within the context of trying to box everyone he faced.

A fighter with the physical attributes of Sam Peter best not try to outbox a fighter who's got a height and reach advantage over him.
....under these circumstances, Peter's best bet is to be his relentless self before the Toney rematch.

Peter liked how it felt being able to outbox Toney, that he tried to turn himself into a boxer........one thing is to outbox a fighter who's physically smaller than you are with less of a reach, and another is to use those same tools to attempt to outbox a fighter taller and with a reach advantage over you.

 

Either Klitschko brother & or even David Haye would KO Toney for the first, official time in his career. James shouldn't go out like that, he achieved a lot, even among the Heavys, and the Klits wouldn't get any real respect for KOing a legend when he's clearly well past his best.

 

Very good point, but Peter did try to revert back to his old style of aggressive pressure & throwing bombs but it didn't work. He even tried that route against Helenius....................

 

Because Toney lost and some idiots, like yourself, thought he won. He was schooled even more the second fight....................watch before posting, it'll make you appear smarter. :hi:

 

The first fight was closer but only the blind or the biased would score it for Toney............... he didn't do **** & never once had Sam on the backfoot or hurt.

I picked Toney to outbox him before the first fight, I was shocked to see Sam outbox Toney. But that's how it went down.

 

I disagree and had Toney winning the 1st match, but we can agree to disagree on that.

Since that 2nd Toney fight, what else has he done? He stopped an old, basically shot Maskaev, and nearly got KOed by Mccline. He then quit against Vitali in a shameful manner, lost to the much smaller Eddie Chambers, and got bitched out by WALD in the rematch.

After fighting Toney, he was never the same. The timeline is irrefutable.:deal

 

White could've ignored him, since when is Toney a brilliant persuasive speaker? He's annoying but White should have declined him. I think the world could've gone on without Toney/Couture. As far as boxing, it still isn't right that Ali was able to go on to the Holmes fight and that's why I spoke of corruption.

Greedy guys still make money off of corpses of fighters and have been doing so for years. Toney arguably won the first fight with Peter, rewatch it as it was close. The second was not an "ass kicking" but Toney should've hung up his gloves after he got outboxed by Peter of all people. It shows how shot he is.

 

James Toney is old school. He can fight into well in his 40's. As for Vitali, he really is starting to slow down and is 40 years old himself.

 

Toney was not himself in the second fight, too much weight lifting, so he was not slick. He did no real boxing training, just fitness with Blanks, that was a mistake.

But Toney can still fight. It is just that you guys are too dumb to understand it.

 

Of course Toneys latest statements are ridiculous (well, they have been so for some years now).

BUT: little fat James Toney did better against Sam Peter the first time they met than Wladimir Klitschko did (their first fight). Both Toney and Klitschko beat Peter, but Toney did it more convincing - it was a huge robbery indeed..

 

Sure thing . Toney KO1 Vitali with the very first range finding jab to the chest.

 

And then Evander Holyfield who has about the same left in his tank rematches Toney and floors him en route to a 12 rounds unanimous decision and becoming the oldest HW champion ever by a respectable margin.

 

Toney to Peter "You have to try that new burger man, it totally changed my life!"
The rest is history :deal

 

I saw audience footage of his "fight" with Greer when he was down to a very nice weight of 217, like in the Holy fight and he looked very, very poor to me. I think he'd do very badly against Vitali. If he were in 2003 form, then it'd interest me a lot. Now, not at all.

 

The very first serious (?) post from you and it's bad , too.

Toney never had any chance against either Klitschko .

He could have had against the likes of Bob Foster though .