Best Mexican Fighter 1980 Forward

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  1. Finesse74

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    Ahh nice to have you back weirdo
     
  2. Finesse74

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    Its funny seeing that Mexicans stick to JCC.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Why is it funny? He was just better than everyone else on the list.
     
  4. the_baller

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    Chavez is a bum! He made his whole career off a fix of a fight with Meldrick Taylor. Meldrick gets ****ed and his career goes down the tube because that ******* had the fix in.:mad:
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Watch more Boxing. You'll love it, promise.
     
  6. elchivito

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    Why is Sanchez not on the list? He's clearly the best Mexican fighter from 1980 on forward and basically of all time. Most people have him and Willie Pep as the greatest featherweights of all time. Destroyed 2 ATG's in Nelson and Gomez by the time he was 23, was not even in his prime, was an elite brawler turned boxer puncher after he noticed some limits of brawling and promised himself he would never lose again. He basically had the right hand of Morales, counterpunching of Marquez, and ring generalship of Barrera, but with all due respect to these guys Sanchez was on a higher level. He combined American boxing with Mexican he could box or go toe to toe and this guy easily, easily had the best stamina I have ever seen in all of sports. It didn't matter if he was fighting at a medium or fast pace he never gasped for air. Don't forget he did 15 rounds, not 12 rounds like today. Ask Juan LaPorte and Azumah Nelson who was the best fighter they've ever faced and it isn't Julio Cesar Chavez or Pernell Whitaker. :good
     
  7. Zopilote

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    Chavez.

    Sal Sanchez not being in this list is just plain blasphemous, and to make things worse is that you included guys like Margarito and Soto....Instead of those 2 you should have included dudes like Sanchez (duh!), Gilberto Roman, Rafael Maequez, Fernando Montiel, ect....But seriously, Margarito? Soto??? :patsch
     
  8. Addie

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    Nelson was a 13 fight novice when Sanchez defeated him, and Gomez was an ATG 122lbs moving up to Featherweight. Good wins, but not incredible ones.

    Whitaker was a superior fighter to Sanchez.
     
  9. elchivito

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    They were the same age and how would you explain Nelson destroying Gomez right after his loss to Sanchez? Nelson to me then could be compared to Gamboa today. Maybe he can't match Gamboa's amateur pedigree or experience, but Nelson was the exception. Gomez was the favorite to beat Sanchez at 126 it really didn't matter that he went up in weight. Plus they fought in Puerto Rico. They made Gomez a favorite for a reason.

    We saw the best of Sweet Pea; we never got to see the best of Sanchez, but from what I've seen he did pretty great.
     
  10. Zopilote

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    Who was the heavy favorite, was 32-0-1 (32 ****in' KOs) and thought to be invincible, and Chava gave him a brutal beating, and even almost had him out on the first round. I would say thats more than just a "Good win".

    And 13 fights or not, Nelson showed that he could hang with the elite that night he fought Sal.
     
  11. Zopilote

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    They fought in Vegas.
     
  12. elchivito

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    :patsch My bad.
     
  13. Zopilote

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    But either way, Gomez was the heavy favorite going into that bout, and Chava was the first man to show the world that he wasnt invincible like he had been looking prior to their meeting.
     
  14. elchivito

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    Exactly. Bazooka was a living legend by that time, a p4p fighter, and by no means a one dimensional fighter. Not many gave Sanchez a chance and that's because he was the champ. Some people here act as if Gomez was just a nice "win". Beating him was the equivelent of beating Pacman back then. I won't argue with anyone picking Chavez as the greatest I can understand that, but Sanchez also has a pretty strong argument to be considered the best from Mexico.
     
  15. Addie

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    You aren't listening to me. Nelson was already an impressive fighter 13 fights into his professional career, granted, but I think it's important to keep the victory in perspective. Sanchez does not hold a victory over the Nelson that dominated at Featherweight and Super-Feather. He holds a victory over a green, inexperienced version.

    Gamboa is relatively unproven himself, but at least he has an extensive amateur pedigree behind him. He isn't inexperienced on the big stage, Nelson certainly was 13 fights into his career. Non-comparable, really.

    What reason was that? Gomez was making his debut at a new weight. The impact it had on his performance is up for debate, but Gomez was known as a destroyer, a punisher, at Super Bantamweight. He never looked the same fighter at 126lbs. There's a reason he made a swift return back.

    A "great" win. Fair enough.

    Unquestionably, I was only making the point that Nelson was inexperienced and new to the professional game. Sanchez didn't beat the man at his best.