Jack 'Kid' Berg Vs Ricky Hatton

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  1. GazOC

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    http://boxingbiographies.com/bio/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=237&Itemid=28

    "Upon his ring retirement in 1929, after twenty years a fighter, the gambling, generous Kid Lewis was not well off, in spite of estimates that his ring earnings in the United States alone exceeded a half a million dollars. In 1931 Oswald Mosley as a youth training instructor employed him. As Lewis became aware of the true politics of Mosley he resigned by knocking him across the room and on his way out got two more guys for good measure."
     
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    Ricky Hatton doesn't really belong in this class.
     
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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewgPSvxKmFY[/ame]

    Gummer lost his British Middleweight title a year before. I doubt he was a Heavyweight for this fight but he is undoubtably much bigger than Lewis.
     
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  6. Iron Chinned

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    I'm not certain that Berg will cope with Hatton throughout. Doesn't have too much pop to dissuade him IMO.

    Now if I'd said Ricky Vs Canzoneri I'd be taking the **** :lol:

    Anyway, I'm more interested in talking about Ted Lewis now. Can anyone justifiably hype him to the max? I'm well aware the Britton series is astounding....but is it simply that coupled with a, dare I say it, Yory Boy Campas-esque 'sometimes I still win' guy across loads of weights?

    When I first started looking into the history if boxing, Ted 'Kid' Lewis was one of the few names I knew I had to check out. I'd heard his name a few times in my youth.

    I wasn't astounded then, and even with a better historical base than I had when I was about 15, I'm still not massively impressed.

    Apart from Britton. Maybe I'm omitting something important and I'll go 'oh, yeah he is brilliant' :rofl
     
  7. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gaz how do you think hatton against terry marsh would of gone
     
  8. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    neither hatton or berg would of had enough pop to dissuade each other
     
  9. Iron Chinned

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    Exactly as I said; I think it comes down to Hattons strength, hitting and mauling his way to a decision :good
     
  10. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think berg because he was from an era when more infighting was allowed would hold the edge thier and strength of lung could be very important berg would out work hatton .

    we will never agree on this :yep
     
  11. GazOC

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    I'll be honest, I don't rate Terry Marsh at that level. Tough, fit, good workrate, good chin but I think he loses to a hell of a lot of 140lb champs in H2Hs.
     
  12. Iron Chinned

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    I'm not sold on it either way mate, hence the thread, was interested to see how others envisioned it going down :good

    I was going to do a thread 'Better Win: Berg Vs Chocolate or Hatton Vs Tszyu' but thought I'd get the whole 'you're favouring older fighters 'cause they're in black and white' bollocks, but this seemed more fun, and as JukeboxTimebomb has just posted that Lewis in here, with a good synopsis, the thread is doing it's job :happy
     
  13. Mr Butt

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    incidentally berg was top rated at lightweight but never got a tittle shot and holds a win over canzoneri at lightweight so does he have a better win at lightweight than buchanan . as it could perhaps be suggested that laguna was possibly on the way down and in any case was not in the same league as canzoneri as a lightweight at any point in his career
     
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    yeah against hatton marsh would have to box and not fight the way he did in his world tittle fights, but then marsh was always a boxer until his world tittle fights
     
  15. Iron Chinned

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    Nice bit of footage that, Lewis showed some nice pop there. I am very much of the opinion that a top class fighters can beat someone much bigger if that fighter is average (not every time, but for instance I imagine Manny Pac would probably beat Matthew Macklin :lol:) despite giving up weight.

    I'm still not convinced that Lewis, OUTSIDE OF BRITTON, is actually any more accomplished than say, Guillermo Jones.




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