There is a thread blaming *******s why Pacman > RJ > Floyd where in "FACT" it should be Floyd > RJ > Pacman. Oh the *****s... :rofl:rofl:rofl
Chin: Floyd Speed: Jones Skills: Floyd (his defense sets him higher) Amazing Feats: Jones Titles captured: Floyd Opponents: Draw For now I'm going to say there even because of Jones amazing feat and Floyd still remaining undeafeated while capturing so many titles in different weight classes. Because Floyd is still young enough to compete against the best out there, he still have a chance of passing him. Beating Pac will not be enough, but beating Pac as well as Martinez would set him higher especially if he remains unbeaten while doing so.
Oh yes it will be enough. If Mayweather beats Pac, he clearly leaps past Jones. And i think most people will agree.
Beating Pac will not be an amazing Feat for Floyd because most already believe that he will do it anyway. Fighting Martinez will be more of a challenge. Floyd will be out of his weight class, fighting a bigger man with skills, and no catch weight. There will be a lot of doubt of Floyd getting the victory against him vs him getting it over Pac. Imagine if Pac retired tomorrow and Floyd decided to move up and fight Cotto, beat him then move on to fight Martinez and beat him as well, while still remaining unbeaten. How could anyone deny him of being great?
Oh yes it will be. Just because he has a very good chance at beating Pac don't mean it won't be one of the more signficant wins in boxing history. And this is exactly WHY people are bashing Floyd because he would probably be slightly favored if they fought but won't man up.
Jones is superman but he is a superman who fought majority stiffs. Part time boxers. Floyd fought the division's best in his 17th fight. Enough said. Besides a Green Bhop and prime toney who is drained, he really didn't beat anyone dominating.
Jones dominated everyone he faced, those 2 wins you mention already put his resume above mayweathers, roy moved from middleweight to heavy winning belts, his weightjump is atleast as impressive or more, he has the better resume as well. Roy is rightfully winning this, that he gets knocked out easily nowadays doesnt change that.
Jones' notable wins, Bhop, Toney, Tarver, Ruiz, and Trinidad. Floyd's notable wins ( i'll do it backwards bc he fought more big names) Shane, JMM, Hatton, Oscar, Judah, Gatti, Corrales, Castillo. It is not a close comparison. However Jones did fought Joe cal, danny green, Glen Johnson but all whipped him. Sure i know he is shot by then....
The hell it does. First of all Toney and weight drained is like Judah an Underachieve after his prime. and bhop is green. How can you even say those were awesome wins?
You sure bout the people he fought ? Or are you basing this on hear say ? And a green Bhop ? His records was 22-1 and was ranked the # 1 middle weight in the world at the time Jones record was 21-0 and was ranked the # 2 middleweight .. After that loss Hopkins didnt lose for 10 yrs !And Toney weight drained well Jones fought both Hopkins and Toney with an injured right hand ..