Why does Oscar get away with cherry picking Pac?

If he had won he would have received hatred like floyd got for beating marquez, dont forget he also drained b-hop yet hopkins is the only guy to knock him out but nowadays people say he made Oscar move up to knock him out. 155/6 isnt that far from the weight he was good at.

 

Who on earth claims that Manny cherry picked Oscar?

I'd answer your question with a question. Why should a man which a recent record as chequered as Oscar, coming off an underwhelming performance against a fighter who was effectively a super-featherweight be aiming to fight the best (around his weight like Margarito, who fought a man he should have pulverised and got beat anyway) instead of using what financial pull he has in his latter days?

Oscar wasn't among the best at that point, his recent record at the time showed that, he went for the biggest money fight he could make and that was the pound for pound king. The best should be fighting the best, but if some dinosaur of the sport who still brings bigger figures than the other fighters wants to fight him. Take the fight.

 

I think if Oscar had won people would have bitched about him not fighting cotto or margarito, I think if he had won he would have fought hatton at 147 as well.

 

Because people know that, that was just a "money fight".

DLH is PPV figure, and he's just milking what's left of his stature.

 

I'm not in the negotions so I can't comment on this as a whole, but the guys at Top Rank and Golden Boy recognised that the Manny fight was the most lucrative fight. de la Hoya had the star power and Manny had the accomplishment, so from that angle you can see the business sense quite clearly. Saying Margarito would have done x number of buys may very well have been true, but the fact remains it is speculative. Manny-de la Hoya made something like 1.4/1.5m buys I think.

Oscar wasn't at the stage in his career where he should have been fighting the best, the Forbes fight was one of the most underwhelming fights that I've been pumped up for before hand from a personal stand point. He decided that he wanted Manny, who could have fought Guzman or Campbell or whoever else. Instead the fight with Oscar was made and Oscar was favoured to win, and people did accuse him of cherry picking. By this stage in his career though he was a part time fighter who anyone with a right mind wouldn't have considered among the best.

Manny did the right thing, he took the fight and became immortal (although I think he already was). Margarito sat on the sidelines and cried about not being able to fighter de la Hoya (who wasn't among the best) so Margarito in turned cherry picked Mosley (who also wasn't considered among the best) because it made financial sense to fight in LA. Both mens decisions were bad ones, Margarito's more so because he destroyed his rep. de la Hoya just damaged his but walked away with a massive amount of cash.

I'd agree with the use of the phrase cherry picking if Oscar had beat Mayweather and then come of a solid KO win over Forbes, but...he didn't.

 

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Unfortunately we aren't going to know what Team Oscar, Team Pacquiao, or Arum or any of those other guys thought in private. Whether Team Oscar genuinely believed that taking on Manny would be the easier way of getting back to the top, and thus chose him. I, personally, wouldn't call it a cherry pick just because for me it implies that someone on the top (based on merit) chooses the easy option. I don't think Oscar was on top picking a guy below him, I think he was using his financial weight as a way of becoming/staying relevant within boxing and making a shed load of money at the same time (which has always been the Oscar/Arum way of thinking in all their collaborations).

I don't think Oscar deserves to be chastised too much even if people do think he was cherry picking, at least not as long as people have a go at Margarito for picking Mosley (which I don't think I've seen anyone do even though Mosley was seen meat for the meat grinder) or the return of the prodigal "P4P1" taking on "numbero uno" in his return fight (which to be fair Floyd gets a lot of stick for).

 

He didnt. He got ****ed up good. Neither man gets the any credit.

 

Pac deserves credit for going from 130 to 147 in the same year and retire Oscar, that oscar ****ed up is his problem. I still believe it takes balls to make such a jump, and come into the ring 100% ready and in great shape.And eventhough it doesnt do much for pac on here we all know that this fight made him into a superstar boxer.

 

No I didn't think so. decades from now when they open the history books, the fact remains that the much bigger guy ODH call out PAC, a midget coming from a several lower weight div all on account of money and attempt to bring back some lost glory. He paid a heavy price though as he got his ass whopped in an embarassing fashion. Right now, however, the world is full of haters and fanboys who fanaticaly dismiss Pac's accomplishment in destroying a much bigger guy in ODH. Pac has now getting a lot of discredit for beating a drained and dried ODH. But these same people seem to ignore the fact that ODH fights above the WW div, and the guy knew so well he'll be fighting with some level of disadvantage. He and the haters didn't ***** before the fight about his weight and now, ODH is all about weight drain and ****. Give me break